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Submitted by Akain Jean-Mairet (Switzerland), Nov 2, 2013 at 01:12

Sometimes your God promises pardon, but only for those who respect the "covenant" or return to it, as anyone can discover by reading the few verses around. Sometimes, He asks Muhammad to forgive, but only because He assures him, one or two verses before or after, that His justice will come after them, with superhuman harshness, if they don't accept the "true religion".

Your God forgives a lot of things indeed, but never disbelief. In Islam, you can lie, kill, rape, torture, enslave and have all your sins be forgotten. But disbelief is always punished, by Muslims or by God. Disbelief is THE sin.

And unless you read only the verses you quote here, you know that. At the very least, all knowledgeable Muslims do. And in Islam, knowledgeable Muslims define Islam, not pathological liars picking verses out of their context.

In 5.13, God recommends to pardon people who are cursed by Him, that is, who will suffer the worst of punishment.

43.89, the last verse of the surah, comes after a description of the fate that awaits the said people. God actually says "I'll have them punished, so don't bother."

In 3.159, God is telling Muhammad to forgive not to enemies or unbelievers, but to lukewarm Muslims, the so-called "hypocrites" (3.167) who criticize the calls to war.

In 8.38, God promises pardon only to people who will "cease from disbelief". And in 8.39, God orders to make killings (literal in Arabic) among those people until there is no disbelief.

In 15.85, we are still in Mecca, at the (unsuccessful) beginning of the revelation, where the prophet is in an uncomfortable, weak position. God promises that unbelievers will be crushed, recalling several such occasions where He did massacres against believers, and then tells Muhammad to be nice with them, to just warn them that God's wrath will be upon them.

So that's what our Guardian does, too. For now.

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