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Quranic liguistic disasters: In Hadhan Lasahiran revisited part one

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 23, 2013 at 09:21

Our dear GoD whose Hindu ancestors were murdered by his Muslim masters that invaded India and he really tried to live among his Arab masters but he realized that the Arabs are racists and do not like Indian Muslims or Pakistanis and this is why he now lives among kuffar in Canada right our dear GoD the Arab wannabe?

You and your master the infamous, notorious boutrous Zakaria who is wanted for defaming

He is wanted for defaming? Really? where and defaming what? The one who defames and curses us kuffar is your so called Allah! Botros is free and he can say anything he wants and here is his web site and he has a live program and yo can call him and ask questions but I can assure you that you will make a fool of yourself


charges, who ran away from Egypt like you did

I did run away from Egypt? really? why? I'm not even Egyptian or of Egyptian origin. Mr wannabe Arab we study your religion and this bothers you because we kuffar know much more than you do right?

You? you ran away from living among your Arab masters that do not like Indian Muslims and Pakistanis like you and not you live among kuffar that pay the cost of your health care and social benefits right?

and found haven in the infidel blasphemous USA, you are approving what God forbade people to do, they do it in USA. a person whom the truth with strike him hard one day.

But you see your Allah says that he leads astray whom ever he wants then if the people of the US are misguided then we can only blame Allah

So are you blaming Allah for us in the US being big time kuffar? A yes or no will do

So my suspicion was right. You are an Egyptian Coptic

Well let me see if I'm to become an Egyptian Copt would this drive you and drive your Allah out of your minds? If so how can I become one?

You see our dear GoD I have been told that I'm a Sahioni (Zionist) and a Yahodi (Jewish) and Hindusi (Indian/Hindu) and Armani (Armenian) and Greegi (Greek) and now I'm called a Qibti this is music to my ears as it means that I know the language like a native right? So how can I become a Copt you tell me and I will join?

There is no problem with any of God's words in the Holy Quran,

The Qur'an is the word of your Allah? Where is your evidence and why would Allah make mistakes in spelling of perfect Atabic words and Arabic grammar and provide us with bogus science as in telling us that the earth is flat? Any guesses?

they are all perfectly put in their places and you cannot find any single tiny flaw as much as you try.

Well we will see and let the readers will judge!

Why did your Arab master Sheikh al-Azhar write a 750 pages book about the Quranic disasters and here is the link if you can read Arabic which I doubt very much


What a disaster the Qur'an is a literary disaster

Numerical, grammatical, scientific and prophetic analysis in the Holy Quran show that all verses are intact, even if you say Al-Qurtubi said,

Oh and speaking or al-Qurtubi he tells us a lot about the In Hadhan Lasahiran disaster so stay tuned for this one

or Al-Tabari said or 1000 Tafsir people said, the Quran is the word of God whether you like it or not.

You can read al-Tabari in Arabic? if so how come you did not know that he was saying that the word Adna in Surat al-Ruum means NEAR and not LOW as you told us? Let me guess you cannot read al-Tabari in Arabic and you are and you must pardon me ignorant because you did not know that the word Adna means near right? Why the delusions?

Eat your heart

Is that halal and can I have it with bacon and mustard

No true Muslim would listen to you

But you are listening right and you do not like what I say and you cannot prove it wrong as in the case of Surat al-Ruum right?

The Verse 20:63 is correct even if Uthman of Aisha doubted the grammar.

You do not know any Arabic after all you did not know that the word Adna means near and your bogus low but you want to make a fool of yourself right so bring it on

The ل in the لساحران is not the normal ل in such as له or (هذه اللعبة لسعيد) or (حرف جر) -This ل in لساحران is extra, so the words follow النصب في - إن which follows هذان ساحرانthis ل is not ownership or exclamation or call for help the normally used for and therefore have no effect in the grammar إن تنصب التي بعدها

For the readers our dear GoD is undiciplined so let me help him this is the rasm of Q20:63 and I'm being nice by leaving the nuqat or dots which were added by the Ulama that were EDITING the words of Allah

ان هذن لسحرن

Tsk...tsk...tsk poor Arabic as It should be

ان هاذان لساحران

Now we fixed Allah's poor Arabic but wait still missing are the short vowels et voila

اِنْ هاذانِ لَساحِرانِ

Now we have the EDITED verse or In HaDHani Lasahirani

Do you know what this means so far? It means that the Qur'an is an edited book which means that it has been corrupted it also means that the Qur'an was transmitted as a text because if this was oral transmission we will not be debating this disaster

But this is poor Arabic grammar oh why? here is the reason:

In classical Arabic we have a grammatical rule called in wa akhawatiha http://www.drmosad.com/index34.htm and it as follows the word hadhan is the subject مبتدأ and the word lasahiran is the predicate or خبر and in this case the subject (because of the in before the subject and the predicate) should be in the accusative and not in the nominative as we find it in the sentence so the correct sentence should be ان هاذاين لساحران or in hadhayne lasahiran and keep in mind that we are also editing the poor rasm or Allah's Arabic which is ان هذن لسحرن

And here is an example you tell us readers which one is the correct Arabi grammar

1. ان هذان لتلميذان

2. ان هذين لتلميذان

Let me help you number 2 is the correct Arabic grammar so do you know what this means/ It means that the Quranic In Hadhan Lasahiran is a mistake and what a disaster

you are bogus, go find something else useful to do

You must pardon me but the ignorant is you

Oh next? I will only tell you what your Islamic sources tell us about this disaster and next will be Ibn Kathir and then al-Qurtubi and last will be al-Tabari so stay tuned

I urge you to leave Islam and revert back to Hinduism the religion of your ancestors and be free from the Arabs and their imperialism


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