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Re: "Some examples why Islam is not a perfect way of life"

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Submitted by Omar Kaj (Nigeria), Feb 28, 2007 at 17:06

So you are the reason why Terry had been dropping those bombs on me? Speaking of "Flaws", check out the spots you missed:

The Qur'an:-

allows a man to be polygamous with up to 4 wives Surah 4:3

"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice." - The Women 4:3

Analysis: To take care of women and their orphans, not for joy or anything else; this should be done to do social charity for broken families. Prophet Muhammad, descendent of Ishmael, did this himself in his lifetime.

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instructs men to hit their wives. Surah 4:34

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because God has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what God would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, great (above you all)." - The Women 4:34

Analysis: This part of the Chapter (or Surah) is crystal clear.

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allows mature men to ‘marry' and have sex with prepubescent female children Surah 65:1&4

"O Prophet! when you divorce women, divorce them for~ their prescribed time, and calculate the number of the days prescribed, and be careful of (your duty to) God, your Lord. Do not drive them out of their houses, nor should they themselves go forth, unless they commit an open indecency; and these are the limits of God, and whoever goes beyond the limits of God, he indeed does injustice to his own soul. You do not know that God may after that bring about reunion. " - The Divorce 65:1

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Analysis: I do not see anything here.

"And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) God He will make easy for him his affair. " - The Divorce 65:4

Analysis: I do not see anything here.

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orders the mutilation of male and female thieves Surah 5:38

"And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from God; and God is Mighty, Wise." - The Table Spread 5:38

Analysis: You do not think that the God Who sank an Arabian city like the Altantis, covered Prophet Lot's city with lava, drowned the disbelievers with water after mocking Prophet Noah, drowned a defying pharaoh, turn His favor against some Jews at some time and place [according to the Bible and biblical media], would allow such a thing to be executed? Why do you think stealing is limited in Muslim society, if it were not for this? No one gets punished, FYI, unless the person showed up in court "Three times" already under the same case. However, the poor who steal for survival do NOT count as THE thieves in this subject. But also read the next verse:

"But if the thief repents after his crime, and amends his conduct, God turneth to him in forgiveness; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." - The Table Spread 5:39

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allows slavery, Muhammad himself trading in slaves Surah 47:4, 4:24

"So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if God had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of God, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. " - Muhammad ("One who praises") 47:4

Analysis: Wrong. Like what the U.S. Forces is doing in Iraq, it keeps prisoners of war in Cuba. But in this Chapter (or Surah), they are being kept as "prisoners [of war]", NOT "slaves", until the enemy party pays them compensation, or the prisoners do something meaningful for their enemies' civilians; like what was being done during Muhammad's first war against the pagan Quarish tribe of Mecca.

"Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise." - The Women 4:24

Analysis: Mistranslation would described it as a slavery, but it is referring to married women. It is merely talking about which type of woman to marry; Chapter 4:23 [not mentioned here] also spoke of which type of woman, including family members, are not eligible in this case.

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says that slave girls are the sexual property of their owners Surah's 4:3, 23:5-6, 33:50, 70:30,

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orders torture (crucifixion) and mutilation Surah 5:33

"The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;" - The Table Spread 6:33

Analysis: You want them to keep on killing men, women and children? Now, how should we punish the militiamen in Sudan, the Hutus in Rwanda, and the diamond smugglers in Sierra Leone then?

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order sexual sinners to be whipped Surah 24:2

"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.." - The Light 24:2

Analysis: You do not think that the God Who sank an Arabian city like the Altantis, covered Prophet Lot's city with lava, drowned the disbelievers with water after mocking Prophet Noah, drowned a defying pharaoh, turn His favor against some Jews at some time and place [according to the Bible and biblical media], would allow such a thing to be executed? Why do you think adultery is limited in Muslim society, if it were not for this?

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says that a woman's testimony only counts half of a man's testimony, because of the woman's "forgetfulness" Surah 2:282

"O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as God has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) God, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of God and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to God, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things." - The Cow 2:282

Analysis: That is not what it says. Also, it is not a bad thing. Do some practical research with this.

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allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge, literally ‘an eye for an eye.' Surah 5:45

"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto God) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of God's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which God hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

"And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which God hath revealed: such are wrong-doers." - The Table Spread 5:44 - 45

Analysis: Like I said somewhere earlier "... they are being kept as "prisoners [of war]", NOT "slaves", until the enemy party pays them compensation, or the prisoners do something meaningful for their enemies' civilians".

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orders death for individual critics and opponents of Muhammad Surah 33:59-61

"O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and God is Forgiving, Merciful.

"If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbors in it but for a little while;

"Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering." - The Coalition 33:59 - 61

Analysis: Consider reading Chapter 33:58 first:

"And those who speak evil things of the believing men and the believing women without their having earned (it), they are guilty indeed of a false accusation and a manifest sin." - The Coalition 33:58

Carefully analyze all this. It makes sense and isn't disturbing at all.

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"celebrates" Muhammad's slaughter and enslavement of a thriving Jewish tribe (Qurayza) and his confiscation of their property Surah 33:25-27

"And God turned back the unbelievers in their rage; they did not obtain any advantage, and God sufficed the believers in fighting; and God is Strong, Mighty.

"And He drove down those of the followers of the Book who backed them from their fortresses and He cast awe into their hearts; some you killed and you took captive another part.

"And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and God has power over all things." - The Coalition 33:25 - 27

Analysis: No analysis, but do you know what you lack? History. What the so-called Qurayza Jews did that time, for the Quarish pagan tribe of Mecca against the early Muslims of Arabia, is the same thing Iran is doing for Hizballah and Hamas today. They were allies just being targeted later. Jews and Christians are also mentioned in more peaceful chapters in the Qur'an, in case you forgot.

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orders warfare on Christians and Jews during Muhammad's first crusade, long before the European counter-crusades Surah 9:29

"Fight those who do not believe in God, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what God and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." - The Repentance 9:29

Analysis: Since this Chapter (or Surah) is the only one that does not mention "In the name of God the Most Gracious the Most Merciful" at the beginning, this chapter is meant to show God's dark side on sinners. This verse should not be looked at litrally, and it excludes the People of the Book, who are being blessed of following the Qur'an already. A Muslim is a person who submits to God. Isn't this what Christiand and Jews are already being doing till today? So what's the difference between the People of the Book and the Muslim-Muslims? Also, this chapter like I said is only referring to sinners. Case closed.

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orders warfare and death for polytheists who refuse to convert to Islam Surah 9:5

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idol worshippers wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely God is Forgiving, Merciful." - The Repentance 9:5

Analysis: Look at my previous analysis. Also, look at this verse. It is referring to those who sinned too much, they forgot all about the God of Abraham or his teachings to Jews, Christians or Muslim-Muslims.

testifies against its own reliability and incorruptibility, doing this in numerous ways which need debating in further detail.

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reveals troubling aspects of Muhammad's life in relation to demonic powers Surah 113,

"Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn (1) From the evil of what He has created (2) And from the evil of the utterly dark night when it comes (3) And from the evil of those who practices witchcraft (4) And from the evil of the envious when he envies (5)" - The Dawn/Sunrise 113

Analysis: This is only talking about "Darkness" as a form of evil. Please stay awake at night and turn off the light in your bedroom while you're at it. Evil does roam in the dark: From Black magicians to blood-thristy armed robbers... all the way to hired assassins. Nothing related to Muhammad here.

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recycles stories from apocryphal "gospels" claiming them as "revelation" Surah 3:44, 19:23-26,

"This is of the announcements relating to the unseen which We reveal to you; and you were not with them when they cast their pens (to decide) which of them should have Marium in his charge, and you were not with them when they contended one with another." - The House of Imran 3:44

Analysis: You do know that al-Islam ("the Submission") is merely what Christians and Jews believe in. They worship and submit to God. so they are iltrally mu-Slimi'yn (Muslims). What's new here comparing to the gospel?

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denies the divine and eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus Christ Surah 9:30

"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of God; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may God destroy them; how they are turned away!" - The Repentance 9:30

Analysis: Just like saying that God is not the only god. Remember: "La'a ilaha il Al-Lah", -- no other god but God. See Chapter 112:3 - 4. Also, some flaws exist in King James' edition of the Bible, referring to a few other individuals apart from Christ as God's Son, or Sons. After all, it is because of this, Muslim men, women and children in Israel and Palestine are no longer at litral peace, because of religious claims that c. "May God destroy them; how they are turned away!"

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denies the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ, claiming that Allah put a "looklalike" on the Cross Surah 4:157

"And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of God; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Jesus) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure." - The Women 4:157

Analysis: So? If Jesus Christ (I'sa, Yeshua, Yasue, etc) had actually died on the cross, how would he return to this world to fulfill God's final prophecy on mankind? God promised Abraham thru Gabriel that He would no longer accept man sacrifice; humans were replaced with sheep, which explains Eid al-Adha, and why He didn't let Christ be harmed. All the prophets Muslims believe in are no longer eligible to return as recognizable forms to Earth since they died long time ago.

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claims Muhammad, the archetypal Islamic terrorist, to be the model for all mankind, the exemplar Surah 33:21, 68:4

"Certainly you have in the Messenger of God an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in God and the latter day and remembers God much. " - The Coalition 33:21

"And lo! thou art of a tremendous nature." - The Pen 68:4

Analysis: So? What's wrong with that? Ishmael, a son of Abraham, must be proud of his Ardescendant by now. And who said Muhammad encourages terrorist or would like to clap hands to so-called Islamists? Look at the Qur'an again. It has the Ten Commandments scattered all over the pages. Compile them and see for yourself. For example, see Chapter 5:32 for "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

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I hope I answered everything, my bro. It is already 11:05 here and my Internet's about to burn out. And If I were you, Lactantius Jr., I would target those who do not really believe in our God, such as the Hindus, Buddhists, Shinshu, Confusists, etc.

By the way, we are talking about Valentine's Day? Not religion?


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2"Some examples why Islam is not a perfect way of life" [355 words]Lactantius Jr.Feb 18, 2007 19:5513901
Not holding my breath [299 words]TerryFeb 24, 2007 19:1313901
Re: "Some examples why Islam is not a perfect way of life" [3166 words]Omar KajFeb 28, 2007 17:0613901
"Is Islam peaceful and peaceloving. What do Islams most authoritative documents say?" [2748 words]Lactantius Jr.Mar 5, 2007 18:1913901
Re: "Is Islam peaceful and peaceloving. What do Islams most authoritative documents say?" [92 words]OmarMar 7, 2007 08:1113901
part 2 [933 words]OmarMar 8, 2007 02:4313901
Where will we find peace? [2281 words]Lactantius JrMar 9, 2007 19:2113901
THINK A LITTLE!!! [193 words]SaraOct 27, 2007 12:4013901
"Give us some examples of just how peaceful Muhammad was" [43 words]Lactantius Jr.Nov 6, 2007 11:4013901
Lactantius Jr. [202 words]abdul muiizNov 27, 2007 14:4113901
Here we go again, the usual moslem resort [20 words]KlewNov 27, 2007 20:2813901
Please explain [65 words]Lactantius Jr.Nov 28, 2007 04:0213901
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in your words [57 words]abdul muiizNov 30, 2007 02:5613901
Please give us some examples of just how peaceful and peaceloving Muhammad was [66 words]Lactantius JrDec 19, 2007 05:3813901
understanding! [58 words]abdul muiizDec 19, 2007 23:3313901
still waiting [14 words]abdul muiizDec 19, 2007 23:4013901
2"Do Islam's most authoritative documents say Muhammad was a terrorist?" [2990 words]Lactantius JrJan 14, 2008 16:0513901
Lactantius Jr "Do Islam's most authoritative documents say Muhammad was a terrorist?" [1903 words]abdul muiizJan 17, 2008 19:2213901
Does "Islam" mean peace? was Islam spread by the sword? was Muhammad a terrorist? [170 words]Lactantius Jr.Feb 4, 2008 15:1413901
sad [186 words]nadiaMar 3, 2008 06:1313901
"Glad not sad" [3975 words]Lactantius Jr.Mar 9, 2008 16:1913901
Lactantius Jr. ..............even nadia (15yrs old) knows! [23 words]abdul muiizApr 23, 2008 17:0113901
Lactantius Jr.....bully? [184 words]abdul muiizApr 23, 2008 17:1913901
Our dear Abdul Muiiz rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiya [188 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2008 07:0713901
"Lactantius Jr.................bully?" a response [252 words]Lactantius Jr.Apr 24, 2008 17:2613901
now we can have a productive debate, Lactantius Jr [90 words]abdul muiizApr 24, 2008 19:4613901
response [342 words]NadiaApr 25, 2008 01:0113901
Our dear abd al-mu3iz and his big time falsafa [217 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2008 06:5113901
"Response with corrections" [600 words]Lactantius JrApr 27, 2008 15:4413901
"Let amicable discussion continue" [153 words]Lactantius Jr.Apr 27, 2008 15:4913901
like i said [32 words]NadiaMay 1, 2008 04:2913901
Dhimmi no more, you want my time, OK, hope you can handle it, " Our dear Abdul Muiiz rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiy'" [530 words]abdul muiizMay 2, 2008 17:0213901
Our dear 3Abd al-mu3iz [69 words]dhimmi no moreMay 3, 2008 08:5313901
"knowing religion and knowing Jesus Christ" [186 words]Lactantius Jr.May 3, 2008 17:1313901
lantatius jr , lantatius jr [30 words]abdul muiizMay 3, 2008 17:5913901
" Our dear Abdul Muiiz rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiy'" response 2 [124 words]abdul muiizMay 3, 2008 20:2113901
Our dear 3Abd al-mu3iz you still did not answer my question [31 words]dhimmi no moreMay 3, 2008 21:2813901
Does "Islam mean peace?" [445 words]Lactantius JrMay 6, 2008 17:3513901
1"Was Islam Spread By The Sword?" [4489 words]Lactantius JrMay 6, 2008 17:4613901
3"Let There Be No Compulsion In Religion" [1732 words]Lactantius Jr.May 6, 2008 17:5913901
2"Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe" a response [564 words]Lactanius Jr.May 6, 2008 18:0713901
dissolving your assertions [44 words]abdul muiizMay 7, 2008 16:1313901
Does "Islam mean peace?"....abdul muiizs' response to Lanctantius Jr [141 words]abdul muiizMay 8, 2008 12:0913901
the fastest growing religion in world [49 words]muhamedJan 21, 2010 11:1713901
Awesome!! [20 words]AgentblackdiamondFeb 16, 2010 05:0013901
1"Even more Awesome" [484 words]Lactantius JrFeb 17, 2010 18:0813901
Why does Islam provide a "complete way of life," and Christianity doesn't? [34 words]Lactantius JrFeb 20, 2010 12:0313901
Come to Istanbul and see [109 words]CorakApr 1, 2010 19:2013901
late reply [41 words]AgentblackdiamondFeb 18, 2011 05:0313901
islam [17 words]adnanDec 28, 2012 04:1613901
Islam & Valentine's Day [66 words]Mark AlexanderFeb 17, 2004 10:3213898
Restricting valentine day is not paranoia [247 words]saima sadiaJan 28, 2006 12:5313898
Americans' need to feel loved by everyone on earth [53 words]paul gilbertFeb 13, 2006 05:1713898
Open Mind [16 words]Abdul RahmanFeb 15, 2006 05:0913898
Valentine-phobia [237 words]JoshFeb 15, 2007 16:1013898
Valentine Day Nonsense!!!! [88 words]Proud IndianFeb 16, 2007 01:2013898
hello [25 words]SalimMar 7, 2007 05:2313898
Valentines Day [15 words]T.J.Jun 27, 2007 02:3713898
Anti-Valentine's Day [16 words]Qareena KarimFeb 8, 2008 10:2513898
why should valentine? [40 words]denisFeb 10, 2009 21:5713898
valentines day [57 words]kianiFeb 14, 2009 04:5413898
don't celebrate valentine day [11 words]shahid akhtar khanFeb 13, 2010 17:4413898
1Valentine's Day - You Missed on This One [89 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Brian KheelFeb 17, 2004 10:2013897
Insight [13 words]WPLVFeb 17, 2004 09:1913895
The need for perspective [63 words]S. FeldmanFeb 17, 2004 09:0613894
RE: The need for perspective [265 words]R.L.Feb 18, 2004 14:3013894
WHAT ARE U AFRAID OF [115 words]KathyFeb 10, 2007 08:2513894
Re: WHAT ARE U AFRAID OF [82 words]Omar KajFeb 18, 2007 02:4713894
Repetition [80 words]TerryFeb 24, 2007 19:2113894
Terry, have a reality check [190 words]Omar KajFeb 25, 2007 15:3913894
P.S. ... [46 words]Omar KajFeb 26, 2007 01:5213894
reality check [72 words]TerryFeb 26, 2007 16:4513894
Re: reality check [307 words]Omar KajFeb 27, 2007 03:4813894
By the way... [42 words]Omar LakMar 1, 2007 13:4913894
what drivel [127 words]TerryMar 1, 2007 15:3913894
End of story [72 words]TerryMar 1, 2007 18:1113894
Re: what drivel [259 words]OmarMar 2, 2007 08:2613894
"none of which would convince or even interest you? [104 words]OmarMar 2, 2007 09:5013894

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