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More reflection is needed
Reader comment on item: Winning the Propaganda War [versus Radical Islam]

Submitted by John Rampton (United States), Jan 6, 2006 at 18:27

In understanding the Muslim definition of truth in media, we might find ourselves butting heads as to how exactly they define it. Honesty in the Middle East seems to be; from what I have observed, defined more by one's submission to Allah as an honest Muslim, rather than the aptness of one to tell what one thinks is objectively accurate. Seeing as how Muslims regard the Koran as the direct word of Allah, and not subject to challenge or question, there seems to be very little; if any, search for what one can trust, or; more accurately put, what one can agree with. The search for truth is largely bound and gagged in a culture that demands complete genuflection, as is the mentality in the search for your beliefs.

When you have a culture that communicates every greeting, solicitation, and request with "In 'Shah Allah" somewhere in it, that is complete submission. You're not even allowed to have a good day, unless specifically willed by the creator. The syllogism here is that you're not allowed to worry about anything in your life (unless people can't see you worry about it). Charity and alms to the poor is hardly an outreach of any kind over there, but more so an insult. It is only given so you don't have to watch someone starve. It is emotionally hard to witness it. But it is rarely; if ever at all, the intention of the giver to improve the situation of someone who begs. That would interfere with the will of Allah.

Westerners can get very cynical when it comes to religion, and it even reflects in their inability to trust authority, but Muslims regard religion as more important than anything. Very little differentiation is observed in Muslim religious history, as a very important religious and political leader must be martyred in order for a new one to form, it seems. Questioning Allah, or even the interpretation of the Koran is not tollerated within the schools of thought, it would seem to me. Breaking away, and becoming a Christian is less unthinkable than questioning the Koran's interpretation by one's native school of thought.

This religious totalitarianism is more so evident now than ever before, as the fractured Middle Eastern area has fostered dicatatorships that are "the will of Allah". (Perhaps Al Qaeda's international appeal to a Muslim is the fact that most of these political boundaries are overcome.) For most, even dictatorship is considered a largely respected legitimacy, if you can get some clerics to back you (I wonder how they might arrange that), but for the most part, Muslims can almost define their nationalism by their religion. Otherwise; it would seem to me, they are completely devoid of any nationalism whatsoever, and have a hard time seeing any nationalism beyond religious boundaries.

Almost in the spirit of the hardy-Wineberg theory, it may seem that when populations of Muslims are cut off, they may evolve their own interpretations of what the Koran really means, as this seems to be about the only opportunity to deviate without severe repricussion. Apparently, human beings have very little worth in day-to-day living, unless they are someone important. If you are not a dictator; or even related to one, your position is precarious; more so if you are Christian or Jewish, but even Muslims do not deviate far from their place in what is by most standards a very strict caste system. This is not something that is written, but understood, it seems. Deviating from it is considered a challenge to Allah.

It is interesting to note that after all that Marxism failed to do in the way of totalitarian control, Islam seems to do seamlessly; almost effortlessly. Perhaps the reason behind this alliance between Communists and Islamofascists would be more based on utility than convenience. Mr. Pipes, you mentioned this thing about "Free Radio". It may be that the only way you're ever going to reach out to Islam with "Free Radio" is to put out an alternative that speaks to a muslim in the language and context of that muslim's religion, and not in the language and context of the truth. Such would be unthinkable; hypocritical, even blasphemous, sorta like how they might treat someone who challenges interpretation of the Koran.

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Media propaganda [195 words]Nenette GrunbergAug 16, 2006 09:52
re:spreading democracy [38 words]Robert mooneyJan 13, 2006 15:42
An Outsider Looking In [3488 words]John RamptonJan 8, 2006 19:55
not the same [84 words]joe roseJan 8, 2006 12:50
⇒ More reflection is needed [710 words]John RamptonJan 6, 2006 18:27
Propaganda in the Indian 'Midday.com' [398 words]SonaliJan 3, 2006 00:42
Reply to Sonali [91 words]KhalidJan 3, 2006 01:05
Reply to Khalid [270 words]SonaliJan 3, 2006 10:50
Reply to Sonali, Media [141 words]KhalidJan 8, 2006 02:01
Reply to Khalid [15 words]SonaliJan 9, 2006 12:50
Winning the Propaganda War [versus Radical Islam] [473 words]NonBelieverMay 4, 2006 10:08
Malaysia's Family Law Bill that grossly violates [254 words]SumitraDec 30, 2005 11:53
Cultural influence modifying harsh women oppressive laws [888 words]FauziJamalMar 12, 2006 14:53
winning war [67 words]brooklynbobDec 30, 2005 11:00
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To Mr. Bhatnagar [138 words]M. Saleem AkhtarDec 30, 2005 14:43
Let Us Be Optimistic About Propaganda: A comment [213 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 31, 2005 00:41
The quickest way to lose a war. [81 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 1, 2006 23:57
Values plus understanding will win [96 words]Geoff Brown, Deephaven MSApr 6, 2006 10:42
A dire situation in the making [449 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 30, 2005 02:41
Reply to MacNeni [201 words]sullyDec 30, 2005 18:09
Reply to Sully [98 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 31, 2005 18:12
reply - trying to please the co-conspirators at the UN is futile [257 words]sullyJan 1, 2006 17:04
Reply to Mr. Sully [282 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 1, 2006 23:45
Failure to Thrive
[w/response] [185 words]
DaisyDec 29, 2005 17:56
three equally bad choices [117 words]yuval brandstetterDec 29, 2005 16:18
Mullahs control the press in muslim countries [190 words]NaziaDec 29, 2005 15:23
The strengths of Islamic "education" [92 words]Ed BrophyDec 29, 2005 13:25
Der Fuerher's Face [247 words]Yehoshua ZellerDec 29, 2005 13:24
The Strategic Uses Of Satire [135 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 30, 2005 18:33
Is It Possible To Challenge The Hold Of The Religious Clergy On The Muslim Mind? [544 words]Rakshas 10 AnanDec 29, 2005 11:54
To Rakshas 10 Anan [273 words]M. Saleem AkhtarDec 29, 2005 15:44
To M S Akhtar: Madrassas are a law unto themselves [17 words]Rakshas 10 AnanDec 30, 2005 09:45
Reply to Saleem Akhtar [83 words]Ram KrishnaDec 30, 2005 23:46
the toungue has no bone [931 words]abdelFeb 26, 2006 15:26
Hindus in Sindh [59 words]SindhiFeb 13, 2008 02:02
Winning the war [162 words]SHmuel HaLeviDec 29, 2005 05:28
Reply to My. HaLevi [157 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 2, 2006 00:23
No way you can beat faith with propaganda [235 words]BorisDec 28, 2005 21:59
reply: Boris [224 words]Donald ODec 30, 2005 15:35
MUNICH
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Robert ArbetmanDec 28, 2005 18:09
The Education of Karen Hughes [221 words]Peter JonesDec 28, 2005 13:14
What will be won with our "message"? [123 words]Ed BrophyDec 28, 2005 13:12
Winning and envy
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JamesDec 28, 2005 10:27
response to Dr. Pipes response to my letter, 'winning'. [411 words]JamesDec 28, 2005 17:54
"Propaganda" still needed [138 words]Dennis MurphyDec 28, 2005 10:03
Completely agree with Dr. Pipes.. [116 words]M Saleem AkhtarDec 28, 2005 09:53
Walk Softly But Carry A Big Stick!!! [136 words]RPaineDec 28, 2005 08:46
Further Research
[w/response] [82 words]
Samuel SchwartzDec 28, 2005 07:59
What is the practical implication of your solution?
[w/response] [156 words]
N HordesDec 28, 2005 07:41
Good ONLY to the last drop/line
[w/response] [326 words]
Donald YoungDec 27, 2005 20:31
Losing the Propaganda War
[w/response] [362 words]
Reuben HorneDec 27, 2005 20:21
Winning the propaganda war [181 words]steven lDec 27, 2005 20:15
Is The Status Quo In The West's Best Interests? [484 words]Bill NarveyDec 27, 2005 20:02
We just don't understand them! [124 words]Nathan RosenblattDec 27, 2005 19:46
Hear Hear [65 words]Richard D. CritesDec 28, 2005 15:36
Reply to Mr. Rosenblatt [250 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 1, 2006 19:04
Influencing Muslim opinion [218 words]Donald W. BalesDec 27, 2005 19:32
Re: Propaganda war [92 words]Nena SariDec 27, 2005 19:16
Ayesha and Jaladhi are right [301 words]JaneDec 27, 2005 18:42
Broadcasting to the Muslim World [169 words]Leonard MarkowitzDec 27, 2005 18:07
How to win a war? [114 words]Behrouz AzarniaDec 27, 2005 17:01
What Values? [591 words]ddsDec 27, 2005 16:51
Islam will go down in ashes, literally [188 words]George SiterDec 27, 2005 15:29
Propaganda War - Lies, Lies and More Lies. [88 words]JaladhiDec 27, 2005 14:44
"Truth in news dispensing" laws needed? [284 words]Merry WhitneyDec 27, 2005 14:15
Muslims don't blame their culture for worldwide Islamic terrorism! [243 words]Nonie DarwishDec 27, 2005 12:57
Another form of terrorism [414 words]Kenneth S. BesigDec 27, 2005 12:52
Counter-strategy [100 words]VijayDec 27, 2005 12:33
Information in the Muslim World [207 words]Paul BowmanDec 27, 2005 12:20
The Qur'an says: "Disbelievers are liars" (16.39) [124 words]AyeshaDec 27, 2005 14:44
They use lies , selective info and cover ups [385 words]N. KhanDec 28, 2005 15:12
Reply to N. Khan on "They use lies , selective info and cover ups" [95 words]Rachelle AssoulineJan 2, 2006 13:44
Response to Racchelle Assouline [196 words]N. KhanJan 5, 2006 13:26
Adequate Solution Needed [170 words]David BaschDec 27, 2005 12:06
حملة العداء ضد الصحافة الغربية أقوى منها [341 words]mohamed.mDec 27, 2005 12:03
PropAganda [45 words]Barry WolfeDec 27, 2005 11:59

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