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Dream on our dear Mansoor

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 23, 2008 at 13:32

Our dear mansoor wrote

>Dhimmi the arrogance continues with your attitude.


>Islamic Caliphate was best system.

Really? in-spite of the wars and the mayhem and starvation and killing those 3 "noble men" I think that you are running out of excuses

You still did not answer my question: if these 3 khulafa were really 'noble men" so why did your Allah got them killed as per al-qada' wa al-qadr doctrine? He could not even prevent such crimes. So is your Allah not omnipotent? or did your Allah nasakha (abrogated) the caliphate and this is why it is gone?

>and it was with highly positive command on the system of society. The law and order situation during Caliphate era was example of the strong system which provided justice on every doorstep.

Really? let me see: wars and destruction of the great empires of the late antique period and looting and enslaving and raping and no food and starvation in Mecca and then 3 out of four khlifas were killed and the killers wanted more share of the loot.

So much for alkhulafa' al-rashiduun

>Presently only few Islamic countries are using the punishments of Islamic sharia and most importantly similar to the caliphate era. The results are visible. See Saudia and Iran where strict Islamic Qazi Courts are functional.

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic if you tell a Saudi: Qazi they will look the other way and say what a funny Paki

>The ratio is far minimal than what is seen in west. Iran has a very strong shura system.

They are both undemocratic and barbaric

>Though caliphate system was later converted into imperial caliphate which was not in agreement to what is called democracy today, but the Shura, consultation body including the intellectuals was there and existed in true form.

Bogus. Democracy pre-supposes secularism and there is no secularism in neither the brabaric shari3a nor in the undemocratic majlis al-shura nonsense

Real democarcy is the land of your own ancestors India where I understand that one of the recent the presidents was Muslim. In Pakiland you will never have a Hindu, Sikh, Christian or Zoarostrian that can become the president as long as your are followers of the religion of the Arabs. And spare me your talk about democracy

>Today the voice of Caliphate revival can be heard among the Muslims.

Only if they know

I know whenever Islam revives the power the Caliphate system will prevail in all strengths...

Dream on, but Islam will be defeated in the market place of ideas and your likes will be out of a job


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