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Submitted by David Wolf (United States), Oct 30, 2002 at 17:13

Mr. Ahmed,
Your comments, specifically your choice of syntax, are most telling of the differences in this Arab-waged violence against Jews. You apparently see lands as being "Arab" simply because they have at some point been inhabited by Arabs. I think what you really mean is "Islamic" land- other than your group's religious hatred, there is very little actually separating you- ethnically, culturally, religiously, etc., from the Jews you hate so much.

As far as "ethnic cleansing", you and your ilk invariably omit the expulsion of thousands of indigenous Jews to the trans-Jordan area by the Syrians and Lebanese et al. Now that the Jjews have set up a state, it has become obvious that the "Palestinian" struggle for a homeland is nothing more than a less-unpalateable rubric for a Muslim war against Jews- you are engaged in nothing short of a religious war when the Israelis have signed away everything that the so-called Palestinians have made demand for.

After each treaty is signed, the depth to which the "Palestinians" have sold themselves to the Islamists becomes more and more apparent. The Arabs left trans-Jordan (Israelis never forced anyone to leave) because they refused to share land or nationality with the Jewish "apostates".

As for the use of the term "refugee camp", that is simply laughable. For starters, why have the "Palestinians" been left in these so-called camps for nearly 50 years? Because their leaders profit in the court of international opinion by retaining the rights and special treatment accorded by this spurious refugee status. What's more, any place with plumbing, sewage, electricity, and multi-story buildings that are nearly 50 years old is no longer a camp- it's a town- and the conditions of these towns is the responsibility of the elected officails thereabouts.

This issue is analagous to the contentions of some American blacks, who frequently blame "society", or "government" for the deplorable conditions of the the innner cities. At some point, each group must begin to account for its own successes and failures- America's inner cities aren't covered in graffiti or peppered with bullets because of "government", but because of the people who live there that write all over the place, and shoot at each other.

"Palestinians" will see some relief from the grinding poverty and deprivation in their lives when they shrug off the rhetoric of religious war and demand that Arafat stop embezzling 40% of IMF contributions to his own bank accounts- and to stop blaming Jews for the cultural failure of modern Islam. Until you teach your children that intolerance and corruption, which are inherent in governments co-opted by Islamic law, are the root of this failure rather than the scourge of world Jewry, you will continue to lose

I don't expect a reasoned reply from you, Mr. Ahmed. I don't think anyone steeped in the culture of victimhood as you are is capable of reason. This culture of victimhood you occupy allows you the justification of homicide bombings, and textbooks filled with religious invective towards the outside world.

If you even feel that it should be your right here in the US to practice islamic law, then you've missed the point of even being here- all of our ancestors arrived here with a willingness to participate in the creation of a new culture, but modern Muslims seem to think that they must be accommodated here, and they must change the US to suit themselves like the woman who refused to take off her chador for a DMV photo arguing that it violated her beliefs. What happened to abiding by the custom of your adopted home? She wouldn't have been allowed to dissent in any Mmuslim country, but she felt it her entitlement to do so here. That is the root of the problem- the unbending, imperialistic ways of islam.

Answer me this if you can, Mr. Ahmed- if religious hatred is not at the root of these so-called Palestinians' motivation, why then have they refused to abide by a particular tenet of the Dayton accords that mandates the removal of language calling fo the destruction of Israel from the palestinian charter?

Or answer me this- if religious hatred is not at the root of the entire Muslim world's policy towards Israel, then why does a regional conflict become fair motivation (and even a religious obligation according to many) for Muslims around the world to denounce Israel? Where is the great Muslim outcry when Bosnian Muslims, Kosovar Muslims, and Chechen Muslims are being oppressed?

There is a simple answer. There is no outcry, because "Mmuslim brotherhood" is a myth created to justify a culture-wide religious intolerance of Jews. If there were Jews involved in the fighting in the Balkans over the last 10 or 12 years, I imagine we would have seen Muslims rallying the faithful with cries of jihad. Where has been the aid from wealthy arabs for their Muslim "brothers"? Simply put, the Aarabs turned their collective backs on the Bbalkans because it provided no opportunity to confront Jjews with any shred of legitimacy.

So speak out about what you see as tyranny- but don't you dare to omit the tyrannical nature of modern Islam and the woeful treatment of Jews at the hands of Muslims in the mideast for the last three centuries.

What is "moral" about your position? Is it "moral" simply because you see the Arab-Israeli conflict in terms of Israeli repression and not Muslim/Arab hatred for Jews? Is it moral, or even morally justifiable to shoot a small girl as she undergoes a symbolic ascent to adulthood? Is it moral, or even morally justifiable to print textbooks blaming world Jewry for the near-uniform failure of the modern Islamic world? How about sending your children off to throw stones at men with rifles- other than for the photo ops, I can't understand why you would do such a thing. I address Muslims as "you" for the sake of argument- after all, Muslims are fond of invoking a group response to "threats" from the non-Muslim world, so why shouldn't you be addressed as a single entity?

When American Muslims wake up to the fact that their religion has become a single-purpose entity (that purpose being to bring the rest of the world down with their own cultural "death throes") bent on conflict with the west, then perhaps you will see the fallacy of a culture that by design, propels itself toward violent confrontation with the outside world
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