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Submitted by Haji Jahangir Alam (India), Feb 17, 2013 at 04:58

Dear sir,

I dont know your religion but your reply feel me thinks that you are totally against "TODAYS ISLAM' and more than todays Muslim.But sorry to say that i am also a muslim and I dont follow "To days islam "My islam is ---love,peace,humanity.obedience to Allahs rule given by all the prophets etc.or by the law makers.

According to Quran ,still I must say that there are Two types of Human being "good and Bad" That means muslim and non muslim ,and if you see with your broad eyes you will realise it and narrow mind will block your thinking. so broad your mind and feel the reality.

According to History all the powerful men dominated the weak and it is still happening today.

At madina Hazrat Mohammed has made an agreement which was full of democracy .at that time they were week.But soon when they become power ful they demolish the idols.Is it right no, it is not right .But if you go through the History you will see the truth.

It is easy to blame but very hard to apply the golden rules given by the learned peoples.We are fighting unnecessary ,we must respect all the religion but illogical and unscientific things should not be tolerated .

According to

The author of this little aya is not Allah so do you think that the claim that the Qur'an are the words of Allah is a big fat lie?

If you dont believe that these ayas were of Quran then dont believe.No body is FORCING YOU.

2. I do not see anything about your bogus "good people iman wale" right?

You are" not right" on this point Mr According to my Quotation i have mention the whole" world" not the present Muslim or the arabic Muslim .

3. I do not see anything about your bogus bad kafir right?

For this matter please broaden your eyes and see the world .

4. It also means that you are a big time kafir too our dear haji the wannabe Arab

Again you have mistaken in judging me.

5. So who is the speaker here? It must be your so called Muhammad right? and what a disaster the Qur'an is not the words of Allah.

It is not your duty to judge.when some one believes we have to respect their believe ,But if it goes beyond limit then it is the duty of the people to open their eyes--- thats all.let the thing goes to the creator or the nature who will decide the matter.

6 Lasty the brave little gem is saying that your so called Allah created human beings as kuffar and believers which means that your little tabligh is against your Allah's little grand plan

Yes you are right Mr------As per the eternal truth good and evil ,bad and foul,exist in every social circle and it objects is to give man a colour ful divers life.as bad smells exit with fragance the black with fair complexion,day along with the night ,wonter along with the sammer in this world light wise in human society is also divided into to types of men the pious and the evil,the honest and dis honest men .If there is no bad smell one cannot feel the fragrance ,and it will be non existance. like wise in the absence of evil power it is difficult to have acquaintance with the divine strength.by gods grace every social circle has its diversity as well as contradiction.

pap Atma

God has allowed the evil spirit to exist in the society only to give light and beauty to human life. Again he himself has ordered men to remain away from sin. But in spite of many attempts man cannot keep himself free from sin, God himself has kept this evil power in this world, instead of ending it altogether and in this way, he is giving man his happiness indirectly.

As promised by God ,this evil power exists everywhere. Thus it can be said that its existence is indirectly doing good to man, in this contexts we can analyse the Aiyat 34 of sura 2,of the Holy Koran.

Sura Baqar 2 Aiyat 34 The Cow

And be hold, we said to the angels bow down to adam, and they bowed down, not so iblis, (satan) he refused and was naughty, he was of those who rejects faith.

In view of this verse, people asked some questions for ages and ages together which I find necessary to be solved. For, instead of satisfying the curiosities of men, the religious leaders only issued some verdicts (fatoah). Hence I find it necessary to tell the truth to the curious men and the verdicts maker ,religious chiefs alike. The questionnaires are :-

(1) was it the fault of Gods own creation that his angel
lblis(Satan)could disregard him? When no work of God is
incomplete there what was the defect in iblis's creation and training for which the denied God and why?

(2) knowing the power of God fully well why could iblis

became so proud before him .

(3) Why were all the angels asked to bow down to adam the
man.?where God himself dislikes bowing down before
others excepting the self (according to Holy Koran) then what was the meaning of this bowing down ?

(4) What is the meaning of sending of these message to man

Through the Holy books

The Answers Are :-

(1) In order to make mans life free from monotony and dullness,
God made iblis to disregard him.

(2) All powers and even the existence of the angels are the
rights of God and without him they have no existence at
all. Hence the disregard that iblis shown to God was made
by his Divine wishes.

(3) All creatures are created by Divine spirit. The worship of
his creatures is the worship of God. God exists in this

world as man and he does all his activities through man. Hence by making the angels bow down to Adam, the man God sent this message to man that "service to the man is the service to God" and thus, ordered them to serve the men always.

(4) The purpose behind sending this message through the Holy
book is to make people aware of the unbelievers (kufriat).
If the angel could bow down to man or remain at his

service, then man could take lesson from it and remaining

in service to the creation of God, bow down to God,

himself. That was the wish and order of the Supreme Being.

He who neglects it is the unbeliever kafirs.

As God has relieved man from monotony keeping the existence of sin at each and every step of man likewise he has also shown way through the Holy book and apostles to remain free from those sins and get peace in life

Now you tell me why the lies and delusions?

This is not your duty to clarifies the lies and delusion.Again i will say the nature will clarifies it.The real chapter or the verses are very clear ,please follow them . thanks

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