2 readers online now  |  69 million page views

Response to Mohammed Ali

Reader comment on item: Those Danish Cartoons and Me
in response to reader comment: Good Point Dr. Pipes

Submitted by John M. (United States), Feb 28, 2006 at 13:18

MrAli: Although my post is very clear, but if you insist lets talk about it.

I am pasting the most popular quranic translations of aya 5.32 by Pikhtal and Yousuf Ali from a muslim website:

Pikhtal:
For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth

Yusuf Ali:
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land

Mr Mohammed Ali, to your prophet Mohammed, corruption and mischief , worthy of killing as punishment ,were:

1. Denying Allah as god and him as prophet
2. Muslim becoming a renegade and leaving islam
3. Commiting a blasphemy by insulting or criticizing Mohammed or islam.

Quran says:

4.89 Kill the renegades
9.5: Kill the infidels wherever you find them.
8:12 ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers .
47.4 when ye meet those who misbelieve - strike off their heads until ye have massacred them.


As quran says follow Mohammed in almost every chapter, and "Mohammed is your example" in aya 33.21, let check some examples from sahih hadiths and sira to avoid any smoke screen you may create:

Bukhari:V4B52N260 "The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive."
Ishaq:489 "Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing."

Tabari VIII:143. He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused to respond so he killed all of them."
Bukhari:V1B1N6 "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."
Bukhari vol 3,Book46, No. 717
Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Bukhari,

Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah's Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.' Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.

Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:
Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people alive (former muslims)., Prophet had said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

BukhariVolume 1, Book 11, Number 626:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."

Bukhari:V1B1N6 "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

Now Mr. Ali your prophet and you may call denying islam, mocking islam , or leaving islam a horredous act, mischief making and corruption , worthy of killing and beheading , and hadiths and siras leave no doubt that your prophet set many examples of killing them for you guys to follow, but we call them innocent people who have those rights.

If you want to know about those 164 jihadi Madina ayas abrogating all the comprimising and peaceful Mecca ayas, space percudes me to quote here. You can go on faithfreedom.org or islam-watch.org and read all about them.
Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Comment on this item

Mark my comment as a response to Response to Mohammed Ali by John M.

Email me if someone replies to my comment

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2021 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)