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Reader comment on item: [The Hamas Electoral Victory:] Democracy's Bitter Fruit
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Submitted by ed (United States), Feb 4, 2006 at 16:30

Hey Joe

I don't even know y I am writing this to you. Weren't you the one that said suicide rate for females Is the highest in the middle east. I mean a person that is just going to make up information to make his point has obviously lost the debate. I told you before, your saying as many lies as possible hoping one of them would stick.

You said,

>Muhummad was a sinful man, and a great salesman. He purportedly experienced God, and repeatedly sinned against God. The Qur'an is Muhummad's, not God's.

Do you say he is a sinner according to your own laws, from the porn full bible, or the, changed, altered, distorted, hazy Talmud. Because according to the Noble Quran and the Hadiths, Mohamed was a very righteous man.

One of the Miracles of the Quran is Allah knew when its told to the unbelievers " Kaffirs in Arabic thus you" they would say, Mohamed was a scientist not a man from god, He made up the Quran, He got it from the devil, ETC lol. After 1400 hundred years, the debate didn't change, which tells you how the Quran was uncorrupted. This miracle should make you stop and contemplate for a second, how some literature, written by some guy ‘according to you" knew I was going to say this after 1400 hundred years. You know I cant blame you, too much drinking alcohol, makes people forget they are humans who can think for themselves.

Read Sura Al najm for more. But here is just little of what it says.

"Muhammad is neither deluded nor gone astray, as you are telling others in your propaganda against him, nor has he fabricated this teaching of Islam and its message, as you seem to think he has. In fact, whatever he is presenting is nothing but Revelation which is sent down to him. The verities that he presents before you, are not the product of his own surmise and speculation but realities of which he himself is an eye witness. He has himself seen the Angel through whom this knowledge is conveyed to him. He has been directly made to observe the great Signs of his Lord: whatever he says is not what he has himself thought out but what he has seen with his own eyes. THEREFORE, YOUR DISPUTING AND WRANGING WITH HIM IS JUST LIKE THE DISPUTING AND WRANGLING OF A BLIND MAN WITH A MAN OF SIGHT OVER A THING WHICH THE BLIND MAN CANNOT SEE BUT HE CAN SEE.

You haven't yet Joe showed me or directed to me to one credible source, " credible meaning its said by a Muslim, not another Muslim hater like you, or a person who is not a Muslim but a moderate who doesn't take sides" that says Mohamed said god had three daughters.

>>Muhummad repeatedly talks about how the people of the book are wrong. However, all types and factions of Islam are increasingly becoming more Christian, deviating from the Qur'ans original purpose. In the first place, Islam borrowed from Judaism, Christianity, and heavily from Zoroastrianism (where it got the idea of a Hell, the epic clash of good and evil, etc). The Qur'an also tells that Christians are better than Jews. The only difference between Christians and Jews is the eschatology. Islam is completely different than both in its teachings and eschatology's.


Muslims believe god send down many prophets, with many holy scriptures, Mohamed was not the only prophet, the Quran is not the only holy book " although it is the only one that has not been corrupted". That is another thing that makes Islam so appealing, because it unites all the religions, under one source. The coming of Mohamed is in the bible because the bible was once the true word of God. The coming of Mohamed is also in the Zoroastrianism scriptures, because that too was once the world of god. All these religions on earth have all once been the true word of god before men and the devil corrupted them. Take following is in the Zoroastrian Holy Scripture

"When the Persians should sink so low in morality, a man will be born in Arabia whose followers will upset their throne, religion and everything. The mighty stiff-necked ones of Persia will be overpowered. The house which was built [refering to Abraham building the Ka'ba] and in which many idols have been placed will be purged of idols, and will say their prayers facing towards it. His followers will capture the towns of the Parsis and Taus and Balkh and other big places round about. People will embroil with one another. The wise men of Persia and others will join his followers."
Dasatir, no 14.

Just one more thing to consider Joe, they had that show last night on NBC, about Internet predators. Anyway I saw a Christian, A rabbi, seik, etc, did you see a Muslim guy, no man. Because. There are morals which are in the Quran which shape every Muslims life, once you believe in the Quran your automatically hold yourself to higher moral standings.

Anyway this whole clash of civilizations "which is being fueled by you know who" is all about everyone looking down on each other. One group is like we are better then you because we believe in Allah and we have better Morals, " which is wrong". And the other group saying, do everything we say because we have nukes, "which is wrong" But the only good thing is its taking most Muslims back to their religion, and whenever Muslims are spiritually strong, they can do whatever.

Waiting to hear more made up stories from you joe.

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