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Submitted by joe (United States), Feb 2, 2006 at 18:21

Ed, I am so sorry to tell you, that within Islam and the middle east there are an increasingly large number of warring factions, of states, and of tribes. Take a look at the pre-US invasion Iraq and even now. It was the Kurds versus the Iraqis, and the Shia versus the Sunni. It was the Baaths versus everyone else. What about that huge Iran-Iraq war (wasn't that Shias versus Sunnis, or was it just interwarfare between countries?).

There are militants on every side of the spectrum, each hating each other. All of them, however, displace their hate on the west. There are the secularists, the feminists, the Wahhabists, the fundamentalist literalists, the Afghanis, the Pakistanis, etc. etc. The middle east is in turmoil because every faction is fighting to survive.

In Iran, the youths are constantly rebelling against the tyranic rulers. The youth DO NOT go to mosque. They celebrate Persian ritual, and despise Islam and its tyranny. The feminists don't even acknowledge half of the hadiths.

And about family structure, obviously you have never been anywhere in your life. I come from a tight knit family, tracing it back to the middle ages. What about the Italians, there families are notoriously large. The fact is, in every culture family is important, and your argument is lame. Here in America, at least we dont even make such distinctions between families. Everyone here is free and united (accept hateful Muslims that come here).

Like I said before, most converts are killed by their families. Also, Muslim suicide rates for women are the highest in the world. Your converts are usually murderers converted in the jails (at least in the United States) to the Nation of Islam. These people think there is a white conspiracy against them!

Not to mention your convert or die tactics. Take a look at "why do people convert to Islam" comments on the "Pope and the Koran" and check out everyone's inputs. Forced conversion and murder.

The 'ummah" broke into civil war just 20 years after Muhummad. 3/4 of the Rightly Guided Caliphs were assassinated. Ali is hated by some, and worshiped by others. He was rightly guided all right.

Muhammad was also a sinful man. This man debated with God and saw His face. He repeated "revealed" the living word of Allah. Then how could such a man break his own rules? How could he have 10 wives and 4 concubines? How could he steal his son's wife? Because they were his rules not Allah's. Did you know that he originally said Allah had three daughters?

The Qur'an is a list of commands, anyone who can read can follow them. Awful defensive isn't it? At one point it says that God could not have a son "for who could be His mate?" This is pretty fallible logic, I thought Allah was omnipotent and could do whatever He wanted and thus make anything possible. The fact is, Muhummad was a great salesman. In 100 years, Islam will be written of as the greatest dupe of all time.

P.S. Israel is here to stay, not even a united Arab front could stop it.

A quote from Shakespeare:

O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,
That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
That ever lived in the tide of times.
Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!
Over thy wounds now do I prophesy,-
Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips,
To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue-
A curse shall light upon the limbs of men;
Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
Shall cumber all the parts...
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge...
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

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