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The context again and tafseer v. ta'weel

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 14, 2008 at 07:59

Our dear Taj is now telling us more about the context topos

>quoting various translations of a quranic verse is not an exercise in context. By context, one should read, for example, 9:5 as part of a larger statement, beginning with 9:1 and ending at 9:16. By stripping out one verse from this overall section, you omit the quranic context. Additionally, by citing various commentary (tafsir) you also gain an understanding of the specific event(s) historically that these verses pertain to - an understanding which will alleviate you of ignorant generalizing of this quranic verse that Muslims themselves do not partake in...

So you tell us what the difference between ta'weel and tafseer? And this is an open book examination

The Qur'an in the words of Peters "text with no context" we really do not know what the Qur'an is really saying and this is why the Ulama early on came up with this little gem of tafseer v. ta'weel

Now let us take the case of surat al-tahreem where we are told it is about the little drama in Muhammad's home and this is where Mariya al-Qibtiya is supposed to be the subject of this little drama. Now if you read this opaque revelation called al-Qur'an you will never find the name of Mariya al-Qibtiya. Which makes you wonder that this is no more than a little qissa (story) that was generated by such Qurnaic allusion and no more. So much for the context

Now if you turn to Ibn Kathir you find him saying that Muhammad ate some spoiled 3asl nahl and had bad breath (see Ali Dashti) and nothing about a mariya al-qibtiya so it is either version one or version two that explain this Quranic allusion and it cannot be both and most likely neither tradition is correct

Here is another example and it is the word Ilaf in Surat Quraish. No one has a clue about what this word really means and it was a puzzle to the masorites back then and now but this did not stop the ulama from guessing and fools would believe them and call it the context. Do you know what this means? It means that in this case we do not know what the Qur'an really says and it is all guessing so do not talk to us about a context

Now back to Q9:5 or ayat al-sayf. So who are really al-mushrikeen? Hint: read Q9:30

So much for the claim that the Qur'an is a kitab mubeen maktub bi 3Arabi faseeh.

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