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Peace or Rebellion - Rule of Law or Anarchy - Which is Necessary for Survival of Societies

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Sep 18, 2008 at 13:28

At the basic core, insurgencies are nothing more than organized (or in some instances, loosely ordered) rebellion against the nominal governmental control of a region or state. Representational to the reasons for a minority group to resist the status quo of any government is the ability to convince an otherwise contentedly governed people that their lot in life is no longer enough, thereby influencing rebellion, indeed, revolution. Thus, for example, the Marxist influences in old Russia rallied the worker population against the Tsarist regime, eventually promoting insurgencies that resulted in the October 1917 overthrow of the Tsar.

In today's context, we see an underlying influence of an ideology that ironically, is contraindicative to a historical situation that religion has always been seen as a help, or hindrance to politics. From the Egyptian Pharaoh being seen as a Deity governing his subjects by divine authority, to the governments today declaring governance devoid of divine control whatsoever, there has been relatively little calm in most of the world's nations and regions, except where the people felt content in their government's ability not to overly interfere and to let them live in peace. Enemies to that are the malcontents that have little to make them content and are not willing to allow others their stake. Anarchy frequently becomes the expression of their bitterness, but anarchy is just a tool of that expression, for it cannot bring about any calm or contentment.

In that light, we see that many within the realm of Islamic ideology have that underlying sense of malcontent, and use their own view of Islam to form a reason for their cause of discontent. To provide a point of focus, Israel becomes a target. Why not; for Israel survives the world's most deviant attempt at genocide against Jewish people in Europe, and in no small fashion, re-establish their nation in the land of their ancient heritage. How can the peoples of the ‘Palestinian' cause not be envious of such a thing? They can't. Hence, under the influences of the Islamic ideology of the Arabic heritage, the insurgency of the Middle East flourishes, here, there, anywhere that cause is embraced and supported, even at a national level from a sympathetic state.

As has been surmised elsewhere, counterinsurgencies have their only chance of winning by defeating the ideology. The problem in this case is that the ideology in question has a much deeper rooted base of support, and a much more developed alliance with powers that would bargain away the contentment of a world desperately wanting some kind of peace, even if it means submission to a mindset that leads to domination.

The best source of determining how this has developed, since the situation is religiously based, is the Holy Bible. To understand the contravening ideology in the current context, others will have one refer to the Quran. However, the insurgencies already use the Quran as the underlying source of their ideology and claim their guidance from it. Its influences are growing, and as may be speculated, if unabated, will eventually surpass the Christian influences that which may be found in the western societies. It would be no surprise to those who have a disciple's relationship with Jesus Christ, that the Holy Bible has already dealt with this subject and true Christians are expecting fulfillment of the pertinent passages at any time.

In such instances where there might be interludes of quelling insurgencies for a duration, ultimately, it will require divine intervention of the LORD Almighty God of Israel to quell the insurgencies they face, and to provide their ultimate peace; for after all, it is His plan book that governs Israel's destiny, just He plans to govern the world from Jerusalem.

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British experience. [221 words]DixonOct 25, 2008 22:45141009
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different and clever ways to beat Terror [174 words]RadovanSep 14, 2008 23:13138584
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yes, that's the way to win [27 words]TulioSep 14, 2008 13:10138543
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