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Understanding the Holy Bible is an Act of Faith Necessary to Understand its Truths

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Oct 29, 2008 at 18:27

That you have said ‘you really[are] way out of touch with true Islam' is a statement that this reader has already alluded to, and even more than that, being a true believer in faith as a disciple of Yeshua HaMashiach, following the unbelief in the words of Yeshua HaMashaich as required by the Islamic Prophet is exquisitely against the whole purpose of being obedient to the truth in the Holy Bible.

Now, we have gone round and round on which has prescience, and which does not; either the Holy Bible is true (and there is more proof of that in the existence of Israel than any non-Christian cares to acknowledge), or the Quran, as written centuries ago, which does not mention the re-emergence of Israel as we see it today according to the prophetic passages of the Holy Bible. You have failed to understand the truth of the Hloly Bible.

Muslims only acknowledge the Quran because that is what they are told to do in order to dismiss the truth of the Holy Bible. We keep hearing that the Muslim community (at least many if not most) acknowledge the existence of the Tanach and the Brit Hadassah, yet they spurn the truth because the truths contained have been misunderstood, maligned, misapplied or whatever, and use these misapplications to justify an alternative belief system. You cannot say it is not so, because that is exactly what you (and so many others) are saying here. For the sake of discussion, were the contentions of your assertions that the Holy Bible is originally from Almighty God (I will, for the moment allow the use of your Deity's appellation, allah, for contrast), and protection from the all-powerful Deity one would think preserves the integrity of the message, how is it the Quran can be protected from corruption (suras, hadiths and all that) if there was not enough power to protect the scripture the first time?

The answer is that the Holy Bible, in all of its revelation of Almighty God, written in perfection the first and only time by the inspiration of Almighty God through Yeshua HaMashiach and the Holy Spirit, is the only truth that can be counted on. You make so many references to the supposed corruption you're your proofs are no more valid now than when they were first interjected into the rebellious arguments against a Holy God by unholy people in times past), failing to realize that the corruption is really in the hearts of the rebellious unbelievers trying to justify why they are not willing to believe in Yeshua HaMashiach, just like the Islamic Prophet.

Now, it is conceded that English may not be the most easily understood language for those who did not learn it as a first language (It is a difficult language even for those who did learn as a first language). Couple that with the first acceptable English translation of the Holy Bible still being in the (British) King's English (done hundreds of years ago and many still use it as the first basis for understanding the WORD of the LORD), it is no wonder there is difficulty. There are other English versions, (NIV, NASB, etc.) which the scholars who participated in those translations say they studied and developed their versions based on the old Hebrew manuscripts and various versions of the Greek manuscripts. Here is where there must be understanding; if the scholars did not have faith in Yeshua HaMashiach which governs how one believe in what they are translating, then that translation is subject to error in that it is in the power of the Holy Spirit to make sure of the purity in the words according to the original meanings. Each person seeking the WORD of the LORD in Faith must seek the help of the Holy Spirit in order to gain the understanding of the truth contained in any of the translations, even non-English ones.

Now in a true copy of the Holy Bible, what are perceived as errors or contradictions by unbelieving people are the example of evidences that those people making such allegations do not believe. Therein lies the beginning of the corruption, not of the truth contained in the Holy Bible, but in the lack of understanding of it. A true disciple sees the truth in the Holy Spirit's direction while reading the Holy Bible, and in that power, faith is built, and belief follows.

Now, it is the unbelieving individual that needs tangible evidence (it is written that the Jews seek a sign), and so do many who claim to be Christian but do not have the personal relationship, but faith is the mechanism a disciple of Yeshua HaMashiach utilizes for validation of belief. When I ask for forgiveness, it is by the written WORD of the LORD that I seek it from Almighty God the Father, in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ, just as Almighty God requires in His written Word. It is also written, that He is faithful and just to forgive me of my sins, and does so by the redemption paid for by the blood shed by Yeshua HaMashiach on the cross in His death. We are then justified in our faith by His resurrection and ascension, just as it was witnessed by His closest family, friends and associates. The Jewish rulers at the time began their acts of defamation even as He was being buried, almost as if they needed to cover up what really happened because they knew what they did was wrong.

These are facts, uncorrupted, as witnessed by the Holy Spirit after the cross and written in the subsequent writings of the Gospels and epistles. Anything written outside of those inspired by the Holy Spirit are not to be trusted. By saying that the Holy Spirit does not have the power to protect and preserve the revelation of Almighty God puts into question anyone who thinks there is an almighty power beyond human logic and comprehension. By the power of the Holy Spirit, the WORD of the LORD in the Holy Bible is preserved in the designated texts, whether they were the original manuscripts, or inspired copies hundreds of years later.

Now as mentioned above, once belief and faith are assured in the confession of faith in Yeshua HaMashiach (a prayer in faith and belief is all that is necessary, then to be baptized (there is no need for a Hajj as Muslims do) to be in obedience as Yeshua did with John the baptizer in the river Jordan. Then a disciple, a true Christian, is cleansed from all unrighteousness.

A Holy God had already written these requirements in the Holy Bible for salvation and eternal life, and He does have the power to protect it from corruption. That being so, as it is written, the only reason that can be concluded as to why the Islamic Prophet took to heart the corrupted testimony from unbelievers of the time (the truth still being intact under the power of the Holy Spirit) was to justify having the Quran written because he did not believe in the truth of Yeshua HaMashiach.


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