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Mr. Pipes, a little clarification on a few of your points?
Reader comment on item: Why Revoke Tariq Ramadan's U.S. Visa?

Submitted by Saqib Hussain (Pakistan), Jun 24, 2007 at 23:42

Mr. Pipes,

Although I do not expect a response from you based on the date of this article I feel obligated to address skewed, subjective, and xenphobic reporting in order to help others recognize that simply absorbing what is given to them creates a state in which basic unalienable rights are relinquished for a sense of false security. With this in mind, Mr. Pipes, I offer you a few points in regards to your article, which hopefully you can clarify.

1. While it is true that "It's not every day that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security revokes a visa issued to a Swiss-national scholar…", it is also true that it's not everyday that a highly respected conservative, Catholic institution hires a "suspected terrorist". It is safe to say that the student body at the University of Notre Dame (not Notre Dame) is fairly conservative, deeply Catholic, and mostly Caucasian. If you doubt me on this, I can refer you to any number of close friends who currently attend the university as undergraduates or simply visit princetonreview.com for a profile of the school.

Furthermore, it follows logically that like its student body, Notre Dame as an institution has a reputation for maintaining a conservative, devotedly Catholic outlook. Now accordingly, one might think that an institution (particularly one held in such high academic regard) responsible for hiring a certain professor would scrupulously research, interview, check, and double-check the candidate. With this in mind, it is intriguing that Mr. Pipes and the DHS would have us believe such a vague, ambiguous, and contradictory statement claiming the individual in question has "terrorist ties" or is sympathetic for their cause, or even more absurdly is the "enemy" . I say contradictory because..

2. …if you have ever read Ramadan's works or heard him speak, or listened to someone (respected tenure professors at Notre Dame) who has done either of the above, you would realize that there is a very large gap between what this DHS report claims, and what the man has written and spoken about.

I invite Mr. Pipes and everyone else who has not, to research Ramadan via primary source. While it is very easy to look at the allegations bullet pointed by Mr. Pipes and then dismiss Ramadan as a terrorist sympathizer and Islamic radical, it is much more difficult (but infinitely more just) to research and read what Ramadan actually says about terrorism, the West, Islam and the individual.

3. Here are a few quotes about Tariq Ramadan from respected US media sources (who are actually acquainted with his work)…

"Tariq Ramadan is a Muslim Martin Luther King."

- Paul Donnelly, Washington Post

"As a scholar who looks for progressive voices that tackle the challenges of religious pluralism, there are few whose voice is clearer and more important than Ramadan's."

- The Boston Globe

"A voice or moral clarity and devout faith rooted in a sophisticated appreciation for what is good in Western society and for the contributions Muslims might make to Europe and the US, as well as to spurring change in the Muslim World."

- Christian Science Monitor

Now, Mr. Pipes, who would you have us believe, the above-mentioned media sources that are familiar with the man's work? Or you and the DHS who have a record of intolerance and doublespeak?

4. I use doublespeak because if you look at some of the reasons given by Mr. Pipes you can see how shallow they really are. To spare you from wasting anymore of your time reading an inexcusably long response I will only touch on a few of the arguments. This does not mean however, that most of them are flawed and emit a stench of xenophobia.

    1. "Mr. Ramadan was banned from entering France in 1996 on suspicion of having links with an Algerian Islamist who had recently initiated a terrorist campaign in Paris."

i. First of all, in this statement, there is absolutely no indication that he is actually involved in anything related to terrorism. "suspicion of having links"…I was unaware Mr. Pipe that such strong, definitive, and factual evidence was out there.

ii. Secondly, this allegation is coming from a country whose government has clearly stated that the influx of Muslims in France is a threat to the French identity. While I do not argue with that, it is clear that if you do subscribe to that belief, you obviously would not want Tariq Ramadan coming into your country to urge tolerance, cooperation, and progressivism among Europeans and Muslims, which consequently is exactly what he preaches.

    1. "He has praised the brutal Islamist policies of the Sudanese politician Hassan Al-Turabi. Mr. Turabi in turn called Mr. Ramadan the "future of Islam."

i. If anything, this only strengthens Mr. Ramadan's case. First of all, Mr. Pipes conveniently forgets to mention or provide a source which cites these praises (great journalism) so we have no idea what Ramadan's praises actually were.

ii. Secondly, an apparent radical Islamic extremist, Hassan Al-Turabi, called him the "future of Islam". Hold on one second, read those praises of Ramadan I quoted above. Do you see any similarities? Amazing isn't it, various American media sources and a radical Islamic fundamentalist agree on something: Ramadan's message calls for cooperation and moderation from both side, and magically, both sides agree with this. Intriguing indeed Mr. Pipes.

Once again, for anyone that actually made it this far I apologize for a response longer than the original article itself. I am not a journalist, I am not a scholar, I am not an intellectual, nor do I consider myself an intelligent human being, but it is clear to me that if Americans continue to accept what the media would like us to believe without question, than we will truly be worse for it. I am an American and I have seen what we can do when we learn the truth. We are caring, honest, and compassionate people.


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AustraliaMr [13 words]Peter RobinsonNov 12, 2009 04:37
This is a Misleading Post about Tariq Ramadan [174 words]D.O.Mar 19, 2009 14:37
we must expose those who hate [241 words]Phil GreendJul 10, 2007 11:50
⇒ Mr. Pipes, a little clarification on a few of your points? [989 words]Saqib HussainJun 24, 2007 23:42
Ramadan's defense against his visa revocation is nothing short of pathetic [433 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:19
Reply to: Ramadan's defense against his visa revocation is nothing short of pathetic [148 words]Saqib HussainJun 25, 2007 02:09
A rose by any other name [52 words]Michael ZacharkoAug 25, 2006 22:46
Ramadan should be kept out of the US...for now [420 words]jason smithMar 29, 2006 15:53
ACLU, TOO [49 words]DEANE LEDSWORTHJan 25, 2006 13:29
it is amazing [200 words]kemalFeb 1, 2006 08:30
not that it matters a lot but... [63 words]matei calinJan 22, 2006 08:45
Tariq is a human with a message [130 words]joanaJul 24, 2007 16:42
An Asault on American's right to HEAR
[w/response] [314 words]
Cole PensingerOct 22, 2007 23:23
It is easy to accuse but... [183 words]S. MirmoojiDec 2, 2005 20:35
Evil Ramadan [61 words]Man de HuNov 13, 2005 14:22
I respond in disappointment to Faqi Hussein [620 words]Ramy RamadanAug 31, 2005 11:39
Prof Ramadan " Oxford's new visiting Professor" [815 words]Faqi HusssainAug 30, 2005 21:57
A very peculiar perspective on Ramadan [490 words]Sean McIntyreJul 22, 2005 17:10
Give me a better reason to keep him out [75 words]Carl LarsonSep 29, 2006 22:43
Ramadan has exactly the same goal as the terrorists, which is to spread islam [100 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:28
Tariq Ramadan ... [221 words]Tim HolmesJul 16, 2005 20:31
Gullible Americans [86 words]RichardApr 26, 2005 23:24
Ramadan not a moderate [164 words]JeffApr 26, 2005 16:00
Ramadan, Pipes and Manji [69 words]AliMar 19, 2005 20:29
Show me some proof ... if there is any [248 words]Sylvia WilsonMar 12, 2005 18:25
Tariq Ramadan [35 words]Mary Jane StickleyFeb 1, 2005 11:22
What a Stupid Decision [330 words]Salim ChishtiJan 25, 2005 06:20
Does not make sense [71 words]Maria EvangalistaDec 29, 2004 23:08
And so history repeats itself [212 words]JamzDec 21, 2004 23:34
The absence of proofs [117 words]Darraz ElKhadieDec 16, 2004 11:31
Notre Dame University? [22 words]BobDec 14, 2004 21:14
Laugh or cry... [324 words]Ahmed El ZeinDec 5, 2004 04:49
Bonus: tossing away freedom of expression and association gives "them" less reason to hate us
[w/response] [90 words]
Konrad AdererOct 6, 2004 13:00
It's clear and obvious what Ramadan is guilty of [48 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:33
AP Wrote Biased Article... [55 words]A.Oct 1, 2004 17:47
Response from Ramadan himself [50 words]ThermanSep 24, 2004 14:07
Good for America [39 words]K SalehSep 17, 2004 13:23
Any free thinkers in da house? [201 words]Mohammad SyedSep 17, 2004 12:46
Is this evidence? /DHS has bad strategy if in good faith [151 words]Special gSep 13, 2004 11:58
Thank you! [70 words]Katheryn ScottSep 9, 2004 12:45
McCarthyism Lives [51 words]Brian McBrideSep 8, 2004 18:39
Every person is judged and two persons never got the same chance [70 words]Magnus AnderssonNov 6, 2007 21:32
Too quick to judge, too scared to be objective? [173 words]WarrenSep 8, 2004 10:54
Hasn't Colin Powell Had Sufficient Time? [30 words]John RiemanSep 2, 2004 21:16
Now he's back [60 words]Brian MelkunAug 31, 2004 19:22
Rogue State Department? [40 words]Freeper7Aug 31, 2004 18:33
Keep on identifying the enemies within our midst [43 words]James Hellwig, US Dept Commerce (Retired)Aug 30, 2004 14:46
Highly Informative [87 words]AvrahamAug 29, 2004 23:15
What's goin' on at the State Dep't? [189 words]John W McGinleyAug 29, 2004 22:08
Ramadan critique [59 words]T. A. Green (Ted)Aug 29, 2004 17:09
State Dep't vs DHS [51 words]Marjorie LindeeAug 29, 2004 03:20
Ban Ramadan but allow the Saudis free reign? [183 words]Nelson HortonAug 29, 2004 01:16
Cogent [35 words]Howard R. WolfAug 28, 2004 14:40
Good Job! [84 words]Maureen CoteAug 28, 2004 11:15
Repulsive
[w/response] [274 words]
Richard SilversteinAug 28, 2004 01:25
Trust no Muslim Brotherhood [522 words]Nonie DarwishAug 28, 2004 00:39
What can I do? [87 words]Laurie KursAug 27, 2004 21:00
Superb work [7 words]Alon ReiningerAug 27, 2004 19:29
I agree [12 words]George HAug 27, 2004 15:48
A fine line... [53 words]Lloyd Lionel KleinAug 27, 2004 14:06
What's wrong with the State Dep't? [112 words]Muriel EfronAug 27, 2004 13:38
Islamist Deception [61 words]A readerAug 27, 2004 13:29
ISLAMISM, Mohammad, Quran, Muslims, Dhimmitude, Wahhabism, Jihad [3 words]Chard JeromeAug 27, 2004 11:23
State Dep't must change its ways [199 words]Bernadette KimAug 27, 2004 11:14
Where's the beef? [186 words]Egypt SteveAug 27, 2004 10:55
Other possibilities [36 words]David RomeroAug 27, 2004 10:30
Thanks! [13 words]William KinneyAug 27, 2004 10:24
Enlightening [84 words]LowellAug 27, 2004 09:22
Please continue your efforts [53 words]Martha McGillAug 27, 2004 09:04
Not So Fast ... Tariq [204 words]Arlinda DeAngelisAug 27, 2004 08:41
Wonderful News [27 words]R. Gene PayneAug 27, 2004 08:30
Let's stop shooting ourselves in the foot [180 words]S.F.Gohara, M.D.Aug 27, 2004 08:09
Why not exclude all Germans
[w/response] [70 words]
D HenstridgeAug 11, 2006 18:56
Why did the State Dep't encourage Ramadan to reapply? [19 words]Z TelpnerAug 27, 2004 07:22
There is some justice! [55 words]Harace (Rosinbaum) HammondAug 27, 2004 06:40
Thank you again. Keep 'em coming! [139 words]Menahem DunskyAug 27, 2004 05:47
Who's in charge at State? [73 words]Martin EkremAug 27, 2004 05:02
The works of Tariq Ramadan
[w/response] [129 words]
Shammai FishmanAug 27, 2004 04:08
Thanks [71 words]Tarek AbdelhamidAug 27, 2004 03:22
A good decision but... [119 words]Rachelle AssoulineAug 27, 2004 02:49

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