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What a Stupid Decision
Reader comment on item: Why Revoke Tariq Ramadan's U.S. Visa?

Submitted by Salim Chishti (United States), Jan 25, 2005 at 06:20

This is one of the stupidest decisions made by the Government in its attempt to look like it is trying to protect the people and I will tell you why.

But first I must say that despite Mr. Pipes' protestations and presentations, in my opinion he gives only circumstantial evidence of Mr. Ramadan's proclivities and certainly none that are any better than Mr. Ramadan's assertions of his own innocence on the charges. For instance, the idea that one is to be declared guilty because of the actions of one's father is ludicrous to say the least. By that account we should also keep George Bush out of the white house because his grandfather had dealings with Nazi Germany, or his father has dealings with the Bin Ladens. But all of that aside here's why the decision is stupid.

1. What could Mr. Ramadan not do from here in the US that he could not do from where he is right now? If the 9/11 attacks were arranged from outside the US then what difference does it make?

2. If you had someone you wanted to keep a strict, tight observance over, wouldn't you want them right there in your clutches? It seems that the US would have a better chance of knowing what Mr. Ramadan's activities were if he were here under close scrutiny. I would think that the DHS would welcome him with open arms just to have the opportunity to watch over him closely.

So here, in my opinion, is the real deal. The DHS and the administration know that the US citizenry will never, in the long run, stand for the kind of unconstitutional shenanigans they have in mind. The US people, when they begin to see their freedoms eroded will take action on their own. So the admin needs to keep people like Mr. Ramadan out of the country so they can keep illegal watches over him in other countries. In the name of protecting our citizenry, what idiocy!

Salim

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AustraliaMr [13 words]Peter RobinsonNov 12, 2009 04:37
This is a Misleading Post about Tariq Ramadan [174 words]D.O.Mar 19, 2009 14:37
we must expose those who hate [241 words]Phil GreendJul 10, 2007 11:50
Mr. Pipes, a little clarification on a few of your points? [989 words]Saqib HussainJun 24, 2007 23:42
Ramadan's defense against his visa revocation is nothing short of pathetic [433 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:19
Reply to: Ramadan's defense against his visa revocation is nothing short of pathetic [148 words]Saqib HussainJun 25, 2007 02:09
A rose by any other name [52 words]Michael ZacharkoAug 25, 2006 22:46
Ramadan should be kept out of the US...for now [420 words]jason smithMar 29, 2006 15:53
ACLU, TOO [49 words]DEANE LEDSWORTHJan 25, 2006 13:29
it is amazing [200 words]kemalFeb 1, 2006 08:30
not that it matters a lot but... [63 words]matei calinJan 22, 2006 08:45
Tariq is a human with a message [130 words]joanaJul 24, 2007 16:42
An Asault on American's right to HEAR
[w/response] [314 words]
Cole PensingerOct 22, 2007 23:23
It is easy to accuse but... [183 words]S. MirmoojiDec 2, 2005 20:35
Evil Ramadan [61 words]Man de HuNov 13, 2005 14:22
I respond in disappointment to Faqi Hussein [620 words]Ramy RamadanAug 31, 2005 11:39
Prof Ramadan " Oxford's new visiting Professor" [815 words]Faqi HusssainAug 30, 2005 21:57
A very peculiar perspective on Ramadan [490 words]Sean McIntyreJul 22, 2005 17:10
Give me a better reason to keep him out [75 words]Carl LarsonSep 29, 2006 22:43
Ramadan has exactly the same goal as the terrorists, which is to spread islam [100 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:28
Tariq Ramadan ... [221 words]Tim HolmesJul 16, 2005 20:31
Gullible Americans [86 words]RichardApr 26, 2005 23:24
Ramadan not a moderate [164 words]JeffApr 26, 2005 16:00
Ramadan, Pipes and Manji [69 words]AliMar 19, 2005 20:29
Show me some proof ... if there is any [248 words]Sylvia WilsonMar 12, 2005 18:25
Tariq Ramadan [35 words]Mary Jane StickleyFeb 1, 2005 11:22
⇒ What a Stupid Decision [330 words]Salim ChishtiJan 25, 2005 06:20
Does not make sense [71 words]Maria EvangalistaDec 29, 2004 23:08
And so history repeats itself [212 words]JamzDec 21, 2004 23:34
The absence of proofs [117 words]Darraz ElKhadieDec 16, 2004 11:31
Notre Dame University? [22 words]BobDec 14, 2004 21:14
Laugh or cry... [324 words]Ahmed El ZeinDec 5, 2004 04:49
Bonus: tossing away freedom of expression and association gives "them" less reason to hate us
[w/response] [90 words]
Konrad AdererOct 6, 2004 13:00
It's clear and obvious what Ramadan is guilty of [48 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleJun 23, 2007 03:33
AP Wrote Biased Article... [55 words]A.Oct 1, 2004 17:47
Response from Ramadan himself [50 words]ThermanSep 24, 2004 14:07
Good for America [39 words]K SalehSep 17, 2004 13:23
Any free thinkers in da house? [201 words]Mohammad SyedSep 17, 2004 12:46
Is this evidence? /DHS has bad strategy if in good faith [151 words]Special gSep 13, 2004 11:58
Thank you! [70 words]Katheryn ScottSep 9, 2004 12:45
McCarthyism Lives [51 words]Brian McBrideSep 8, 2004 18:39
Every person is judged and two persons never got the same chance [70 words]Magnus AnderssonNov 6, 2007 21:32
Too quick to judge, too scared to be objective? [173 words]WarrenSep 8, 2004 10:54
Hasn't Colin Powell Had Sufficient Time? [30 words]John RiemanSep 2, 2004 21:16
Now he's back [60 words]Brian MelkunAug 31, 2004 19:22
Rogue State Department? [40 words]Freeper7Aug 31, 2004 18:33
Keep on identifying the enemies within our midst [43 words]James Hellwig, US Dept Commerce (Retired)Aug 30, 2004 14:46
Highly Informative [87 words]AvrahamAug 29, 2004 23:15
What's goin' on at the State Dep't? [189 words]John W McGinleyAug 29, 2004 22:08
Ramadan critique [59 words]T. A. Green (Ted)Aug 29, 2004 17:09
State Dep't vs DHS [51 words]Marjorie LindeeAug 29, 2004 03:20
Ban Ramadan but allow the Saudis free reign? [183 words]Nelson HortonAug 29, 2004 01:16
Cogent [35 words]Howard R. WolfAug 28, 2004 14:40
Good Job! [84 words]Maureen CoteAug 28, 2004 11:15
Repulsive
[w/response] [274 words]
Richard SilversteinAug 28, 2004 01:25
Trust no Muslim Brotherhood [522 words]Nonie DarwishAug 28, 2004 00:39
What can I do? [87 words]Laurie KursAug 27, 2004 21:00
Superb work [7 words]Alon ReiningerAug 27, 2004 19:29
I agree [12 words]George HAug 27, 2004 15:48
A fine line... [53 words]Lloyd Lionel KleinAug 27, 2004 14:06
What's wrong with the State Dep't? [112 words]Muriel EfronAug 27, 2004 13:38
Islamist Deception [61 words]A readerAug 27, 2004 13:29
ISLAMISM, Mohammad, Quran, Muslims, Dhimmitude, Wahhabism, Jihad [3 words]Chard JeromeAug 27, 2004 11:23
State Dep't must change its ways [199 words]Bernadette KimAug 27, 2004 11:14
Where's the beef? [186 words]Egypt SteveAug 27, 2004 10:55
Other possibilities [36 words]David RomeroAug 27, 2004 10:30
Thanks! [13 words]William KinneyAug 27, 2004 10:24
Enlightening [84 words]LowellAug 27, 2004 09:22
Please continue your efforts [53 words]Martha McGillAug 27, 2004 09:04
Not So Fast ... Tariq [204 words]Arlinda DeAngelisAug 27, 2004 08:41
Wonderful News [27 words]R. Gene PayneAug 27, 2004 08:30
Let's stop shooting ourselves in the foot [180 words]S.F.Gohara, M.D.Aug 27, 2004 08:09
Why not exclude all Germans
[w/response] [70 words]
D HenstridgeAug 11, 2006 18:56
Why did the State Dep't encourage Ramadan to reapply? [19 words]Z TelpnerAug 27, 2004 07:22
There is some justice! [55 words]Harace (Rosinbaum) HammondAug 27, 2004 06:40
Thank you again. Keep 'em coming! [139 words]Menahem DunskyAug 27, 2004 05:47
Who's in charge at State? [73 words]Martin EkremAug 27, 2004 05:02
The works of Tariq Ramadan
[w/response] [129 words]
Shammai FishmanAug 27, 2004 04:08
Thanks [71 words]Tarek AbdelhamidAug 27, 2004 03:22
A good decision but... [119 words]Rachelle AssoulineAug 27, 2004 02:49

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