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Radical Islam vs Civilization

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Submitted by steven L (United States), Feb 1, 2007 at 15:49

There must be room for optimism despite evidence to the contrary.

The same movements and organizations in Europe and USA that supported communism, Nazism in the previous century are now supporting blindly Radical Islam.

What keeps these people in the other camp, now, is supposedly the "Excesses of Capitalism" and possibly the absence of spirituality.

For these groups of people, put very simplistically, most of the miseries of the "3rd world" is the result of the abuses of the western societies to which they happen to belong. What they prefer to ignore is that they are part of the "abusers too" and they give themselves good conscience when parading in Hyde Park, Washington, Paris etc.

People when in power, generally and because of all the allegiances to others, bring corruption with them. The corruption through times seems getting worst and worst.

Why are people like Soros and company not following the path of Bill Gates?

Why do they not help cleaning corruption, abuses, poverty, bigotry, racism etc.

What is true for the left is equally true for the right and must apply to everyone, regardless of religion, sex, color etc.

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