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Reader comment on item: Away with Crusaders, Crucifixes, Crosses, and Christmas
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Submitted by susan (Italy), Jul 23, 2007 at 18:52

"Christians and Jews and others have lived in Muslim lands for hundreds of years. "

lived as second class citizen deprived of their dignity and rights. Christian and jews brought prosperity in spite of their lower status, so much that all the engineers, designers, doctors, scientist were all jews and christians because simply muslims weren't able to do those things.

Also muslims needed the jyza paid by christians and jews. So you only benefitted from them, as now that you live off western goods for free abusing the welfare of non-muslim countries.

"Coptic Chistians in Egypt, Armenian Orthodox all across the Middle East, Lebanese Marronites, Assurians and Oriental Jews have lived amongst Muslims communities in peace until Western (mainly British and French) interference. "

this is not true, muslims are like the mafia performing any kind of abuse and extortion, but at the same time needing the work of productive and intelligent non-muslims. Jews and Christians always lived in fear in muslim countries bearing all sorts of abuse. It's no wonder that with arab domination in south spain, the christians moved north.

"You can just see by the recent trend in Iraq to note what pressures are borne down on Christian communities namely being forced out from their homes which they have lived in for two thousand years, due to their 'shared' religion with those that invaded Iraq. "

where christians are murdered, pushed away and required to pay jyza by muslims, thanks for reminding us.

You will...probably ... suggest it's the USA army pushing away christians? LOL, that's laughable since the totality of those christians end up in christian lands, especially USA.

Your logic is non-existent ...

"We should also note that these Christians seek sanctuary in the Muslim nations of Syria and Jordan. Need I remind you of the fate of Jews, Gypsies and others who dared to look and act different in the old Christian Europe?"

In Europe you have jews, gypsies and others, while in muslim countries you have almost none.

"Can you absolve your ancestors of this persecution since I am sure, they were in Europe-and not Australia- at the time."

which persecution you are talking about? the one that the great mufti of jerusalem (MUSLIM) planned with hitler? and look who's talking, you've been persercuting jews for 1400 years. Your prophet was the first murderer of jews of history!!!

"I am not quite sure how many Muslims you have come across personally that have complained about the Christian tradition of Australia or even objected to the Cruxifix. A lot of changes currently underway in Europe is instigated by natives who have converted to Islam. Bring to your attention Altaf Smith in Italy. An englishman in Italy who led the ban against the crucifix in a local school. "

don't talk about things you have no idea about. I am in italy and you are not, the majority of muslims in italy are not CONVERTS but people coming from illiterate, poor and backward north africa. Adel Smith is not a convert but his mother was a muslim too, therefore he's not a "recent convert" as you say. GEt your facts straight before talking about things you have no clue about.

And yes, the muslim immigrants are the ones causing troubles.

"The Spanish (ethnic) Muslims who wrote the letter to the Pope seeking permission to pray in the cathedral in Granada (which was orignally a Mosque)."

LOL, and before it was a church. You muslims have no capacity whatsoever to build anything, AT MOST you can take a nice non-muslim building and turn it to a mosque like you did with taj-mahal and hagia sophia. You cannot do anything on your own, so the cathedral in cordoba, was originally a church, then it became an ugly mosque and now it went back to being a church.

"As far as Australia is concerned, you are an Asian nation, you just need to get use to the Idea, maybe the Australian Grand Mufti is correct. Muslims have more right to be in Australia then convicts."

... Australia is a continent itself, it's not part of asia. And the original religion of asia is buddhism, not islam. That's why you had buddhah statues in afghanistan, before you destroyed them (another proof that muslims only destroy).

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