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The New is in the Old Concealed, the Old is in the New Revealed
Reader comment on item: The Bible's Role in American Support for Israel
in response to reader comment: Replacement Theology and Bastardization of the Gospel

Submitted by A Christian (United States), Jan 20, 2007 at 22:08

The Bible is the authority on this, but must be interpreted logically and sensibly.

For too long now Christians have interpreted the prophecies and New Testament statements concerning Israel according to an Old Testament definition of Israel, and as though the 'wall of separation' was not there, and as though we were not one (Jew and Gentile, male and female) in Christ Jesus. Remember the adage that guides interpretation, "the New Testament is in the Old concealed, the Old is in the New revealed. Thus to understand God's cosmic plan in redemption, we must hold all things in the Old Testament in the light of Christ and the teaching of the apostles, even those that mention Israel.

Don't get me wrong. I am not a supporter of 'replacement theology'. I do not believe the church today is the same as the nation of Israel in the Old Testament. Israel the nation has always been Israel the nation (sons according to the flesh), complete with saved and unsaved persons. Even a cursory reading of the Old Testament easily reveals that many in Israel were evil and did not have favor with God. So also the Kingdom of God consists of only saved persons, predominately Jewish from the time of the Old Testament but now extended to the whole world (just as God promised). Every person from every age that is saved will receive eternal life in Christ - same kingdom for all. Jesus never indicates a separate program for Jews than for Gentiles. The Gospel is preached to the Jews first, then the Gentiles, but it is the same Gospel.

I understand the many passages citing 'Israel' as does Paul in Romans 9, and in light of the relationship of Jews to Gentiles in Christ now, and in light of the many passages that deal with the Judaizers and how bringing people back under the curse of the law and a works for righteousness understanding was undermining the gospel.

The visible church today has become the foremost 'Judaizer' of Jews there ever was. They consider them differently than Christ did. Christ condemned some of them. He called them all to repentance and faith. When did He ever indicate that they have special favor according to birthright? When did God accept an unbelieving Israel ever? Are they exempt from being obedient to the Gospel?


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The Painful But Absolute Truth [100 words]Seamus MacNemiFeb 25, 2007 14:52
Israel and Islam [182 words]Noha A. YousriSep 6, 2007 14:08
Reply to Noha Yousri [90 words]Seamus MacNemiSep 6, 2007 16:52
Reply to Seamus MacNemi [140 words]Noha YousriSep 7, 2007 22:09
Reply to Noha Yousri [192 words]Seamus MacNemiSep 10, 2007 17:56
Our dear Noha and masha'allah! [524 words]dhimmi no moreSep 12, 2007 11:24
god [70 words]dr john jolliyoAug 11, 2009 01:44
You have a say in what you believe. [238 words]LynnSep 27, 2009 10:11
RESPONSE TO SARA [851 words]Bart WillruthSep 18, 2006 10:29
how great a fall, Bart [356 words]saraOct 3, 2006 07:44
why the heck do Jews STILL vote Democrat? [110 words]saraSep 11, 2006 15:37
Bible Believers and Israel / Islam [498 words]Major Jeff WhiteSep 5, 2006 14:46
Israel is still the same as in Old Testament: Micah [359 words]Noha YousriDec 4, 2006 23:53
The God of Abraham and Free Will [129 words]Seamus MacNemiFeb 25, 2007 21:31
Our dear Noha ... [60 words]dhimmi no moreSep 10, 2007 18:59
A reply to your offense Mr.dhimmi... [78 words]Noha YousriSep 11, 2007 18:09
I read this as: and guess what? [22 words]dhimmi no moreSep 12, 2007 16:57
our dear Noha and the debate that is not a debate! Go figure [320 words]dhimmi no moreSep 17, 2007 07:11
Do you believe you have a kidney Mr. dhimmi ? [883 words]Noha YousriSep 17, 2007 22:37
Our dear Noha rabina yu3alimuha al-lughat al-3arabiya wa al-kalawi [1564 words]dhimmi no moreSep 18, 2007 20:50
Re: origins [20 words]Michele EzellSep 26, 2009 19:47
Christian Zionists Down Under. [21 words]GailSep 5, 2006 00:04
Apocolyptic exegesis [105 words]RobSep 2, 2006 01:58
Staying in line with beliefs [316 words]RWCowboySep 2, 2006 00:18
In Reply To Noha Yousri [45 words]Seamus MacMemiSep 7, 2007 09:03
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Palestine has a shallow history [93 words]scott brownSep 11, 2006 18:18
Are the statistics accurate for European Christians too?
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Recommended Reading Re: Zionist Evangelicals [147 words]MichaelAug 31, 2006 11:24
support Israel, not the Bible [326 words]Lewis LoflinAug 31, 2006 10:58
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Calumny most egregious [389 words]MichaelSep 2, 2006 12:36
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SARA'S OFFENSE [550 words]Bart WillruthSep 14, 2006 09:04
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I agree [47 words]Bart WillruthOct 23, 2006 13:20
⇒ The New is in the Old Concealed, the Old is in the New Revealed [392 words]A ChristianJan 20, 2007 22:08
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The "Curse" Of The Law [450 words]Seamus MacNemiSep 7, 2007 13:21
what about Micah ??? [71 words]Noha YousriSep 12, 2007 01:04
I speak the truth [110 words]MichaelSep 12, 2007 21:40
Reply to Michael [377 words]Noha YousriSep 14, 2007 11:44
To Noha Yousri [47 words]MichaelSep 15, 2007 10:17
But our Dear Noha is quoting the Bible! [25 words]dhimmi no moreSep 16, 2007 20:12
Noha Yousri [299 words]dhimmi no moreSep 16, 2007 20:26
But our dear Noha the Qur'an really says that jesus is God [48 words]dhimmi no moreSep 16, 2007 20:31
Speak to God, He is always there for you [125 words]Noha YousriSep 17, 2007 11:59
dhimmi : Nothing is for you [45 words]Noha YousriSep 18, 2007 14:28
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scripture [145 words]buffaloacademySep 10, 2006 00:24

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