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Our dear Noha rabina yu3alimuha al-lughat al-3arabiya wa al-kalawi

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in response to reader comment: Do you believe you have a kidney Mr. dhimmi ?

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 18, 2007 at 20:50

So what did we learn from our dear Noha al-faylasoofa al-kaberra ,well let us see

>so tell me your story first Mr. dhimmi, I want to know how you based your logic in life, how do you see it, where do you come from? where are you going to? what are your objectives?

So what do you think our dear Noha? where did I come from and where am I going and what are my objectives? and what does this have to do with my first question and it is:

Your Allah says that the Jews and Christians corrupted the Bible so why do you quote a corrupted book ya roh baba? And how come you don't seem to know any Arabic?

Then our dear Noha worte:

do you believe you have a kidney, or a stomach?

What do you think? and what does this have to do with my first question and why do you quote a corrupted book?

Then our Noha wrote the following little gem

or you have to open up your body to be sure they are there, do you believe there is a galaxy? how did you know where you there? why do you believe people who said there is a galaxy? If no God exists, how come everything is so accurate and parallelly processed? If it was just randomness or nature from which we were created, it couldn't be that we are all of a human shape, and have no irregular shapes.

Tow words: Big time bogus falsafa. This is called the bogus argument from design and I'm not really interested in debating falsafa with you. I'm asking for real evidence ya roh baba that there is a God called Allah and you anwer is? And let me help you argument from design is no evidence because the answer is if there is a God then who really created your God? The old Aristotelian argument which is beyond your Muslim edcuation

Then our dear Noha wrote another gem

>If two Gods existed together, how would they manage not to oppose each other's decision, how would two people manage to lead a group and they would be on the same level of decision making, then God is not two, He must be One. What of our objective in life, are we there just to eat and sleep and then be burried under earth, and that's all!!! that would be too depressing!!!

Masha'allah .... You must pardon me our dear Noha you still did not answer my question where is your evidence that there is a God and not Gods?

Allah is God and he is The God, no difference for me in that, since God is not more than one.

Then prove it as does he have an mail address or even an e-mail address and where can I contact him and go and talk to him? I'm looking for solid evidence not fantasy

Whether I call Him Allah or God, it does not matter, we say "Rab" which is God for us, and " Allah" as His name. how Allah is God, I saw that in the Quran, which you as other people will not read but still criticise, and I am not amazed, because you people are mentioned in the Quran too.

"YOU people" who are those "you people"?

The proof is in the Quran that both Allah is God,

One word: bogus. Well our dear Noha we need to talk about circular reasoning your command of falsafa wa tafkeer 3aqli is poor. Shame

and prophet Mohammed who carried this message from God to us, will be his prophet since I saw the proofs in the Quran.

More bogus circular reasoning

The proofs that might be apparent to people are:
God's spirit in the manner He speaks to us is there in the Quran

Allah speaks to us? I thought that your Allah is addressing Abul Qasim the Arabian warlord and caravan raider. Your claim is bogus

and the unchanged verses of the Bible

Could you tell me which verse in the Bible is unchanged and whihc is corrupted?

It is the same spirit, in both books.

And where is your evidence? real solid evidence! I'm waiting

The idea that God sent Moses to his people, and Jesus to his people and Mohammed to his people has the same idea, but to send someone as a normal person, as you say, to people, where is the clue for that. Every prophet came with a message that enlightened people who where ready to recieve that message and are happy with it.

Islamic gobbledygook what does this have to do with my questions?

The three prophets came with the same teachings of believing in God, loving people, having mercy, and obeying God's laws. God is not one of three, and both Jews and Muslims have the same belief that God is unique. having the jews not believed in any relevations after Moses, is one of their problems, because they have prophicies in the Torat that tells of other prophets.

yes, the Bible and Torat ( old testament) have been both deviated fron the original ones, because how come God says in the old testament, He is One and Unique, and then the deviations in the new testament let people beleive that Jesus is a son or that He is god himself, the message is one and should have been consistent in the two books. When Quran tells us that God is one and Unique I believe it because the same original uniqueness is there in the old testament. yes the Bible is being deviated, but I could draw out the main layout of God speaking to people, when I looked into the Old and New Testaments.

Big time gobbledygook. What does this have to do with my questions?

The way I believed that God is Allah and Mohammed is his prophet came from reading the Quran and in the relief of having a unique God, without worshipping a son or another spirit, and without having to call on 3 identities every time i need something, and without taking the burden to distinguish how God could be a human and a God at the same time, how he prays to himself when he was on earth, it is not at all logic for me.

But our dear Noha your Allah really says in the Qur'an that Jesus is God! Did you check my other post? Sorry but your allah is a poor theolgian and the Qur'an is nothing but poor literature

As for the Trinity your Allah says that the trinity is Allah, Jesus and Mary (sic) Right? which is a wrong Trinity and I agree with your Allah. But Christians tell us that the Trinity is God, Jesus and the holy Spirit. Right? But it seems that your Allah has no difficulty with such Trinity otherwise he would have told us so in the Qur'an. Therefore congratulations our dear Noha:

1. The Qur'an says that jesus is your Allah.

2. Your Allah has no difficulty with the real Christian Trinity

Your claims are bogus

For me, it is a simple issue, God is One, so He is either the God referred to by Moses , the one referred to by Mohamed or the Father referred to in the Bible, although Jesus meant Father as " Rab" and not a real father. So God is one and the highest probability goes that He is Unique, which is common between Jews and Muslims. Seeing the same main teachings in Old testament and Quran, with some more laws in the Old testament and some other laws in the Quran, but the same theme, I knew that Quran was the completing book of the two previous books.

More Islamic gobbeldygook

Read Quran if you want to know, and Be Careful!!!

But I read the Qur'an in Arabic a language that you don't seem to know. As for being careful: is this a threat our dear Noha or you have nothing more to say?

Who created Allah? should I know what not God allowed me to know?

What is your guess?

do you know where hydrogen comes from, and if so where that source is originally from?.

And what does this have to do with my questions?

....don;t think that you can know everything, you are a human being created by God, and you are allowed to know what God has allowed you, that does not mean you are limited in thinking, no but there are certain boundaries that when we come to we cannot go beyond.

More gobbledygook

Be frank!

Farnk about what? that you don't know any Arabic? or that your edcuation is very clear to me or that you have no command of falsafa wa tafkeer 3aqli

Oh al-kalawi? it means your kidneys

You still did not answer any of my questions and they are again

1. Why do you quote a corrupted book the Bible that is?

2. Where is your hard and solid evidence that there is a God called Allah and he is the real God? Hard and solid evidence. Argumant from design or circular reasoning will not be regarded as evidence!

3. If your Allah created this creation the who really created your Allah?

Noha Yousri

How come you don't seem to know any arabic? Urdu maybe?

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3The Painful But Absolute Truth [100 words]Seamus MacNemiFeb 25, 2007 14:5278844
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