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Reader comment on item: The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem
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Submitted by fbwolfe (United States), Apr 19, 2006 at 01:41

Those who are students of history know that these ...are full of lies, as that is the only way they can reconcile their viewpoint of events. After the Diaspora caused by Titus, there was an interval when all Jews were forbidden from even looking upon the ruins of Jerusalem.

Then came the Christian period when this forbiddance was eliminated. Concurrently there was the problem of the Persian or Iranian Empire wishing to expand it's territory by warfare with the Eastern Roman Empire which had controlled this area of the Levant from the pagan days. There were a few Arab Christian tribes that were enlisted to guard this region of the eastern Roman Empire against the Iranians. They were faithful in this and when the Iranians and later the Arabs were brought into the belief in Mohammed, they fought to the death against these.

After the war of some twenty years, both sides were nearing exhaustion. Along came a plague of some disease that killed many of the the chief combatants and the king of the Iranians. He was replaced by a child king who ruled through an adult who guided the kingdom. This situation did not help either of the contending empires when the followers of the now dead leader of the new "religion" began attacking first the Iranians and then the territories of the Eastern Roman Empire. Due to the weakness of both of the empires, it became a matter of time for the fanatical new "religion" to enter and take possesion of the Levant and the Iranian empire. There was also the issue of the Icons among the Christians that alllowed for many Syrians to go along with the followers of Mr. Mohammed when they were put to the test.

The Arabs (followers of Mr. Mohammed) took advantage of the situation and took possesion of all of the Levant. The Temple of Herod had been destroyed and the Jewish people of the two kingdoms were deprived of any power to prevent the occupation of their homeland and principal city and so the Arabs took posseion of the city and hired some Greeks to design a mosque to be placed on the area of the place where the Temple of Solomon and later Herod had stood.

Today we see the selective memory of the followers of Mr. Mohammed denying that there ever was a temple there on temple mount at all. If you hear what they have to say, there is the constant lie that their great leader was greater than the Jews or Jesus of the Christians. They have sought to be accepted as the equal and supplanters of these faiths. They are usurpers and liars and they in their heart know it but they cannot admit that they have fallen to the lies of a man who sought to control his own people by his SELF PROCLAIMED title of prophet. Here was a man who told one lie after another and eliminated his opposition by murder. He was illiterate and so whatever is written about him was written by someone else who may be actually responsible for the skillful rewriting of parts of the five books of the Jews and parts of the New Testament with Mr. Mohammed becoming a major player. It would appear that these people are not quite accepted. Hopefully the people that have been born under this religion will stop and review the validity of their beliefs and perhaps compare notes relative to the merits of this religion imposed so long ago by an army of fanatics that brooked no opposition nor questioning.

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[w/response] [46 words]
David SommerSep 4, 2009 06:45
Please make the Jerusalem International holy city for all three religions. [73 words]FarooqJun 8, 2009 23:50
Jerusalem for all Jews and christians [29 words]Jeremaih NarhJun 12, 2009 11:47
muslims do have a lot to do with islam [96 words]annaJan 29, 2009 14:30
anna [83 words]btillyJan 29, 2009 19:38
The problem with Muslim history. [190 words]CatarinJan 10, 2009 11:58
Just to set the record straight... [180 words]HalaJan 22, 2009 17:20
Muslim claim to Jerusalem. [47 words]CatarinJan 24, 2009 14:48
about islam [46 words]unknownJan 10, 2009 11:48
Just to remember
[w/response] [18 words]
M.Rizwan AliDec 2, 2008 14:58
Daniel pipes, thank you [15 words]samiraMay 19, 2008 09:48
Jews And Christians Claims To Jerusalam Much Greater [49 words]AnneMApr 25, 2008 20:40
For those who Actually Believe this essay [55 words]AishaJan 19, 2008 23:15
look into your own opinion [54 words]bosFeb 5, 2008 16:08
Proof? [16 words]AbdullahJan 7, 2009 22:38
its in the pudding! [560 words]bosJan 9, 2009 06:12
Jerusalem Holy city for Muslims? [81 words]PDMDec 20, 2007 18:37
The seat of Mohammed in Jerusalem [343 words]laurelOct 2, 2007 16:35
great [3 words]rachelJun 26, 2007 13:30
claim on Jerusalem [235 words]sufi Imdad Ali SoomroJun 2, 2007 02:30
Soomro's argument is undefeatable [188 words]SunilApr 19, 2009 12:51
Muslim claim to Jerusalem [307 words]Sufi Imdad Ali SoomroApr 20, 2009 01:17
GREAT stuff. Highly Informative [60 words]PsalmMay 1, 2007 15:28
Re: The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem [327 words]Omar KajJan 9, 2007 10:02
massively repeated nonsense [338 words]T. CarrMay 18, 2007 10:28
Quran [399 words]yashaFeb 8, 2009 00:14
Reply to: The Muslim claim to Jerusalem [256 words]Paul JaramilloJul 6, 2006 05:41
Paul, have a reality check before insulting [178 words]Omar KajJan 9, 2007 11:10
Reply to: Omar Kaj [120 words]PsalmMay 1, 2007 15:44
Jerusalem- The City of God [Jehovah- The Lord] [250 words]clarence paul puckettMay 1, 2007 23:56
Rubbish [82 words]PDMDec 31, 2007 21:54
Jerusalem? The land title issue [466 words]lltotes90Aug 5, 2008 23:19
excellent & comprehensive [32 words]moses nathanJun 7, 2006 17:45
yeah....WOW.
[w/response] [293 words]
AliyahMay 2, 2006 19:14
Reply to Islamist line on Jerusalem [312 words]IZOct 27, 2006 19:09
Great example [30 words]CraigApr 28, 2007 16:34
What really happened Mr. Pipes......
[w/response] [163 words]
W AhlFeb 15, 2006 19:51
So funny [55 words]GeorgeNov 29, 2008 06:17
Names of Jerusalem [243 words]Ben SmallJan 16, 2006 00:13
MUSLIMS/and Other Religions Except Christians have no Historic Right to Jerusalem [96 words]Josepn NgumbauJun 23, 2007 06:00
are you sure [29 words]BosJun 29, 2007 07:54
Muslims occupying other religion's holy shrines [436 words]Bharat RainaJan 5, 2006 20:06
Let.s not be selfish [56 words]Mary ConnorNov 16, 2007 08:47
Dome of the Rock [72 words]Gerry D.Jan 8, 2005 14:36
Thanks! [26 words]JackieNov 1, 2004 18:23
WOW! [85 words]Bob JacoboSep 30, 2003 07:05
SEE THE HISTORY [42 words]HumayonJul 8, 2009 07:34
Accurate and Awesome [168 words]Ruth LowrySep 17, 2003 01:20
Jerusalem in Sacred Texts
[w/response] [45 words]
Peter J. HerzSep 10, 2003 02:36
Good Work [50 words]V. CoffeyAug 22, 2003 05:31
Dealing with historical islam in an honest way, thank you. [37 words]Randolf ScottAug 14, 2003 13:13
Disagree [175 words]Frederick B. WolfeApr 15, 2006 01:15
⇒ B.S. as usual [600 words]fbwolfeApr 19, 2006 01:41
The barren land ? interesting observation ! everyone should go back to their home land, i couldnt agree more ;) [99 words]samiraMay 19, 2008 09:45
Great history - thank you again Daniel Pipes [24 words]M. McGuireAug 10, 2003 15:45
Highly informative and sorely needed [82 words]Rika ZimmermanJan 3, 2003 13:08
Informative and terrific! [25 words]Michael WatkinsNov 15, 2002 08:58
Great historical essay [54 words]J. RochaJun 26, 2002 20:12

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