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Jerusalem? The land title issue
Reader comment on item: The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem
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Submitted by lltotes90 (Australia), Aug 5, 2008 at 23:19

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This is where I become a little confused. When studying history, I was always taught that several major sources should be resourced and compared, whilst at the some time taking into consideration the agenda of the author. I was also under the impression that any conclusions were merely assumptions and should always remain open to further evaluation in the light of new evidence. Do you think that this approach could also be applied to religion? Hasn't the Christian religion under gone many conversions? Could every belief system hold pieces of the truth?

I'm also a bit stumped by this idea of occupancy. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I was of the opinion that most of the countries (include here entire continents) at some time or another have seen a change of 'ownership' , often to the detriment and sometimes to the complete annihilation of a pre-existing culture. Being an Australian born citizen and not of indigenous blood I can relate to this situation, as I'm sure non-native American born residents can. Should we just pack up and go home? Where is home? The earliest ancestor that I can trace back came out on a convict ship. Apparently England didn't want her either. Now aside from that small detail, other generations of my ancestors have come from many and varied parts of the world. So once again, I ask where is home? ..... And once I get there will they not want me?

Now at the risk of making my ramblings even longer, I'd like to put forward a couple of questions regarding the 'father' of both religions. What do you think of Abraham's behaviour in marrying his half sister..... considering what we know today, was it genetically a wise choice? How do you feel about him forgetting those marriage vows and focusing on the sibling aspect whenever it was profitable? Would taking a mistress and then discarding her and your own child be something you would admire in a person? Please believe me when I say that I mean no disrespect..... I'm just trying to suggest that as the human race evolves and understanding of the world around us increases, perhaps we'd be wiser to follow both Abraham's and Mohammed's actions and find solutions that are relevant today.


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[w/response] [46 words]
David SommerSep 4, 2009 06:45
Please make the Jerusalem International holy city for all three religions. [73 words]FarooqJun 8, 2009 23:50
Jerusalem for all Jews and christians [29 words]Jeremaih NarhJun 12, 2009 11:47
muslims do have a lot to do with islam [96 words]annaJan 29, 2009 14:30
anna [83 words]btillyJan 29, 2009 19:38
The problem with Muslim history. [190 words]CatarinJan 10, 2009 11:58
Just to set the record straight... [180 words]HalaJan 22, 2009 17:20
Muslim claim to Jerusalem. [47 words]CatarinJan 24, 2009 14:48
about islam [46 words]unknownJan 10, 2009 11:48
Just to remember
[w/response] [18 words]
M.Rizwan AliDec 2, 2008 14:58
Daniel pipes, thank you [15 words]samiraMay 19, 2008 09:48
Jews And Christians Claims To Jerusalam Much Greater [49 words]AnneMApr 25, 2008 20:40
For those who Actually Believe this essay [55 words]AishaJan 19, 2008 23:15
look into your own opinion [54 words]bosFeb 5, 2008 16:08
Proof? [16 words]AbdullahJan 7, 2009 22:38
its in the pudding! [560 words]bosJan 9, 2009 06:12
Jerusalem Holy city for Muslims? [81 words]PDMDec 20, 2007 18:37
The seat of Mohammed in Jerusalem [343 words]laurelOct 2, 2007 16:35
great [3 words]rachelJun 26, 2007 13:30
claim on Jerusalem [235 words]sufi Imdad Ali SoomroJun 2, 2007 02:30
Soomro's argument is undefeatable [188 words]SunilApr 19, 2009 12:51
Muslim claim to Jerusalem [307 words]Sufi Imdad Ali SoomroApr 20, 2009 01:17
GREAT stuff. Highly Informative [60 words]PsalmMay 1, 2007 15:28
Re: The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem [327 words]Omar KajJan 9, 2007 10:02
massively repeated nonsense [338 words]T. CarrMay 18, 2007 10:28
Quran [399 words]yashaFeb 8, 2009 00:14
Reply to: The Muslim claim to Jerusalem [256 words]Paul JaramilloJul 6, 2006 05:41
Paul, have a reality check before insulting [178 words]Omar KajJan 9, 2007 11:10
Reply to: Omar Kaj [120 words]PsalmMay 1, 2007 15:44
Jerusalem- The City of God [Jehovah- The Lord] [250 words]clarence paul puckettMay 1, 2007 23:56
Rubbish [82 words]PDMDec 31, 2007 21:54
⇒ Jerusalem? The land title issue [466 words]lltotes90Aug 5, 2008 23:19
excellent & comprehensive [32 words]moses nathanJun 7, 2006 17:45
yeah....WOW.
[w/response] [293 words]
AliyahMay 2, 2006 19:14
Reply to Islamist line on Jerusalem [312 words]IZOct 27, 2006 19:09
Great example [30 words]CraigApr 28, 2007 16:34
What really happened Mr. Pipes......
[w/response] [163 words]
W AhlFeb 15, 2006 19:51
So funny [55 words]GeorgeNov 29, 2008 06:17
Names of Jerusalem [243 words]Ben SmallJan 16, 2006 00:13
MUSLIMS/and Other Religions Except Christians have no Historic Right to Jerusalem [96 words]Josepn NgumbauJun 23, 2007 06:00
are you sure [29 words]BosJun 29, 2007 07:54
Muslims occupying other religion's holy shrines [436 words]Bharat RainaJan 5, 2006 20:06
Let.s not be selfish [56 words]Mary ConnorNov 16, 2007 08:47
Dome of the Rock [72 words]Gerry D.Jan 8, 2005 14:36
Thanks! [26 words]JackieNov 1, 2004 18:23
WOW! [85 words]Bob JacoboSep 30, 2003 07:05
SEE THE HISTORY [42 words]HumayonJul 8, 2009 07:34
Accurate and Awesome [168 words]Ruth LowrySep 17, 2003 01:20
Jerusalem in Sacred Texts
[w/response] [45 words]
Peter J. HerzSep 10, 2003 02:36
Good Work [50 words]V. CoffeyAug 22, 2003 05:31
Dealing with historical islam in an honest way, thank you. [37 words]Randolf ScottAug 14, 2003 13:13
Disagree [175 words]Frederick B. WolfeApr 15, 2006 01:15
B.S. as usual [600 words]fbwolfeApr 19, 2006 01:41
The barren land ? interesting observation ! everyone should go back to their home land, i couldnt agree more ;) [99 words]samiraMay 19, 2008 09:45
Great history - thank you again Daniel Pipes [24 words]M. McGuireAug 10, 2003 15:45
Highly informative and sorely needed [82 words]Rika ZimmermanJan 3, 2003 13:08
Informative and terrific! [25 words]Michael WatkinsNov 15, 2002 08:58
Great historical essay [54 words]J. RochaJun 26, 2002 20:12

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