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Submitted by Concerned European (Lithuania), Dec 11, 2005 at 04:09

Fanatical white converts have the inconvenience that they cannot be as easily detected as people born in Muslim culture. Yet it is in my mind not the biggest problem. If the number of converts would grow considerably, this would change the very nature of the "war against islamism". It would be no more a war "us versus them" with relatively clear frontlines it would be a war "among us".

Another danger is that if the number of white converts increases, various neo-nazi and similar radical rightists groups, which currently are put off by "non-white" caracter of Islam and often pretend to be the "champions" of the Western culture, could be easily attracted to islam. Precedents of white nazi islamists, such as "murabitun", already exist.

Obviously, various anti-globalist groups could even more easily attracted to radical islam, once islam is no more perceived as the religion of "theirs".

The number of white radical converts has not yet reached the critical mass in the West, but when it reaches one can expect very serious trouble.

In my mind, to contend with the radical islam is not enough to criticize islamism as a radical political movement, it is necesary to criticize some basic premises underlying exoteric (scripturalist. literalist, shariatic) islam as such - for example the literalist principle of scriptural interpretation, the idea that the greatest aim of religion is to obey the dictates of the willful and whimsical God, or perhaps even the very idea of the "personal" God who creates the world from nothing and rules it at will, and what is even more important - the ideas of prophetism and religious exclusivism("there is the only way to God and it has been communicated by the prophet X").

Yet such criticism is currently hardly feasible in the West, especially in America, since it would require the criticism of the very principles of which the Christianity also dwells. The West one day can stand before a very inconvenient choice - either try to reject the principles of the Abrahamic religiosity altogether, or maintaining these principles and remain helpless againt the radical islam.

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Oh my God! [222 words]A.P.Jun 2, 2009 18:51
Witchhunt for terrorist [453 words]BilalJun 14, 2006 23:10
terrorism [76 words]sgpalMar 15, 2006 08:39
To No Dhimmi [115 words]AmiraJan 2, 2006 19:14
Reply to Amira [16 words]No DhimmiJan 4, 2006 19:27
ignorant fools-Ignorance is not bliss! [381 words]sgpalMar 16, 2006 07:13
Converts take on larger roles in Militant Islam [1900 words]SophieJan 1, 2006 10:17
Many reasons [235 words]MiriamDec 27, 2005 19:03
Reply to Miriam [526 words]AmiraDec 29, 2005 16:51
Amen Amira [49 words]No DhimmiJan 1, 2006 02:11
My take on grace [126 words]David S.Sep 3, 2006 21:00
To Mueen, Suicide bombers do it to get paradise, Saudi News [246 words]Ex-MuslimDec 22, 2005 11:54
To Mueen Ud Deen, Heretic sects deny hadiths [206 words]MohammedDec 21, 2005 18:34
Another reply to Mu'een Ud Deen [614 words]No DhimmiDec 20, 2005 09:49
A SHORT RESPONSE TO NO DHIMMI [80 words]SanaDec 23, 2005 00:14
to Sana, ref Dhimmihood [165 words]M. al-ContentDec 24, 2005 14:52
Reply to Sana [421 words]No DhimmiDec 25, 2005 12:02
Muslim suicide bombers, response to Mueen Ud Deen [273 words]Mamdouh M.Dec 19, 2005 12:33
Question about the sinfulness or honor of suicide bombing (some call homicide bombing). [118 words]James GlassOct 29, 2008 20:16
Quran, Hadith and Sira all confirm violent and offensive jihad, history is the wirness. [501 words]N. KhanDec 18, 2005 12:30
Only fools do not Learn from other's follies. [201 words]sgpalMar 17, 2006 06:38
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TravelerJul 21, 2008 07:12
Convert to Terrorism art. No.3184 [80 words]S.C.PandaDec 17, 2005 05:31
Panda has an interesting point [140 words]Ex- MuslimDec 21, 2005 19:13
To Mu'een Ud Deen [179 words]SiddaDec 16, 2005 19:42
Reply to N.Khan [402 words]Mu'een Ud DeenDec 16, 2005 05:07
To Mueen Ud Deen: Real reason of suicide bombings [189 words]N.. KhanDec 15, 2005 13:08
clarify to N Khan and others [185 words]from IndonesiaDec 15, 2005 19:20
Reply to 'No Dhimmi' [599 words]Mu'een Ud DeenDec 14, 2005 04:58
Response to Mu'een Ud Deen [287 words]faqi hussainDec 14, 2005 01:19
Reply to Mu'een Ud Deen [320 words]No DhimmiDec 13, 2005 21:20
Reply to POD [365 words]Mu'een Ud DeenDec 13, 2005 09:05
Answer to P.O.D [315 words]Concerned EuropeanDec 13, 2005 07:09
To Harry: more hypocrisy [397 words]a Filipino liberalDec 13, 2005 04:50
Jihadist converts and racial profiling [110 words]Emmanuel ParelloDec 13, 2005 04:17
CONVERT TO TERRORISM [84 words]syed mohammad aliDec 13, 2005 03:44
No Dhimmi [16 words]P.O.D.Dec 12, 2005 01:07
Concerned European/Statistically impossible [176 words]P.O.D.Dec 12, 2005 00:56
Reply to "I Know This" [228 words]No DhimmiDec 11, 2005 09:59
⇒ coversions - biggest challenge? [347 words]Concerned EuropeanDec 11, 2005 04:09
Lisa/Former Muslims/Suicide Missions [407 words]P.O.D.Dec 11, 2005 01:05
Reply to Lisa [144 words]faqi hussainDec 10, 2005 20:56
Islam is the problem [114 words]joe roseDec 10, 2005 07:34
I know that/ -Polgamy/Muslims in the USA [251 words]P.O.D.Dec 10, 2005 03:04
To ex muslim Faqi Hussian [39 words]LisaDec 9, 2005 23:48
Consider this.... [28 words]MEDec 9, 2005 21:21
Blase --dont spread your propoganda [492 words]HarryDec 9, 2005 20:13
Response to I know and you dont. [308 words]faqi hussainDec 9, 2005 19:35
Reply to no name [769 words]AllonehhobDec 9, 2005 16:32
the Left blame Bush [58 words]michael goodmanDec 9, 2005 11:50
John G. dont listen to No Dhimmi [94 words]I KNOW THISDec 9, 2005 11:34
to John Giannasca [153 words]SaNa2Dec 9, 2005 11:25
Converts to Terrorism [332 words]Blase`Dec 9, 2005 06:38
Consider this.... [24 words]MeDec 8, 2005 21:18
I realy feel your pain John Giannasca [503 words]AllonehhobDec 8, 2005 17:15
Allonehhob, what ? [200 words]I know and u dontDec 9, 2005 11:48
Suggestion for Mr. Giannasca [386 words]No DhimmiDec 8, 2005 15:54
Response to John G [252 words]P.O.D.Dec 8, 2005 12:44
Conversion Responsibility/Polygamy [240 words]P.O.D.Dec 8, 2005 11:36
Re: To James Just [83 words]JaladhiDec 8, 2005 11:19
Not Christian-born....Re: Converts to Terrorism [92 words]Cornelia CreasyDec 8, 2005 08:54
Sana2 help me out please [87 words]John GiannascaDec 8, 2005 04:54
Fraley you can't be serious!!! [143 words]John GiannascaDec 8, 2005 04:44
Unlearn Before U-learn! [2376 words]KK VermaDec 8, 2005 03:24
group with most influence over americans [71 words]James JustDec 8, 2005 00:16
Responding to P.O.D. [292 words]Sana2Dec 7, 2005 23:51
Sana2 simplified to the point of idiotic [202 words]Mike RosenbergDec 7, 2005 22:02
To P.O.D. [209 words]AllonehhobDec 7, 2005 17:36
Re: A. Ahmed - Right on [153 words]JaladhiDec 7, 2005 17:21
Allonehhob you hit the mark! [359 words]John GiannascaDec 7, 2005 16:31
The West has lost itself [149 words]Paul FraleyDec 7, 2005 15:28
Wake Up: Conversions begin at home. [429 words]p.o.d.Dec 7, 2005 12:46
Reply to A. Ahmed [123 words]Sana2Dec 7, 2005 12:39
Taking the teachings of Muhammed seriously. [42 words]LanceDec 7, 2005 10:25
We had Hanoi Jane; why not Baghdad Bob? [44 words]George Oh WellDec 7, 2005 09:19
Converts to terrorism [115 words]SamiDec 7, 2005 01:50
Correction to Bill Waldron [40 words]LisaDec 7, 2005 00:34
To John Giannasca [246 words]AllonehhobDec 7, 2005 00:28
Why do they convert? [289 words]John GiannascaDec 6, 2005 16:44
To John Giannasca [431 words]Dinesh PatelFeb 9, 2006 10:03
Why do they convert? [16 words]mariamOct 13, 2006 18:17
prison conversions [322 words]festineDec 6, 2005 16:06
To fight against terrorism, control enemy within [85 words]A. AhmedDec 6, 2005 16:04
Wonderful information, with one scary assumption [418 words]DancerDec 6, 2005 15:51
Extreme Converts [48 words]Bill WaldronDec 6, 2005 14:48
Incentives beyond religious fanaticism [106 words]E. J. BlumbergDec 6, 2005 12:45
Converts [244 words]Donald W. BalesDec 6, 2005 12:37
Discernment vs. bigotry [45 words]David W. LincolnDec 6, 2005 12:05
Where is our News Media? [32 words]Lee D CaryDec 6, 2005 11:34
Why do you search for the tail? Strike the head [291 words]T.A.Dec 6, 2005 11:10
Jihadists [78 words]BenDec 6, 2005 10:24
jihadis [497 words]sgpalMar 18, 2006 01:52

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