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Our dear Deb and his little criteria and Allah

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 10, 2010 at 08:13

Our dear Deb who is really the victim of the syndrome that I call "The muslim mind" and who is desperate to prove that Allah is really God

> God you must fulfill certain criterias to be God.

Well let us exmaine your Allah's claim that he is god and I will only use your islamic sources that you cannot read in Arabic because you ain't no Arab but I will be nice and I will use translations so you cannot have an excuse for not answering

>Here are four below criterias :

For the readers read and laugh

>1. You must not have any beginning or any end.To make it easy you shall not be born or you shall not die. Does Jesus satisfy that ?

Well let us see:the sira tells us (see pages 572-573) that the pesky Jews of Mecca or is it Medina that they posed the much celebrated Aristotelian problem to Muhammad

"If Allah created this creation then who really created Allah"

It seems that Muhammad lost his temper and as usual Gabriel arrived with help in the form of a "revelation" of surat al-ikhlas (for the readers this is Q112) where Allah says to tell the Jews that he is one and that he was not born and he does not have progeny.

And here is your bonus for today: the word ahad means one of and it does not mean one and it is a loan word from Hebrew for one so why would your Allah use an Arabic word that means one of and not the Arabic word wahid or one any guesses? and who are the others any guesses?. The word al-samad no one has a clue about what it means and the rasm of the word KFWN can be read as kufu'an or kufuwan and only allahua3lam. So much for a sura that Muslims recite every day that has no clear meaning

Back to the rest of the story: The rabbis were not impressed by Allah and Muhammad's answer as in Greek logic this would be circular reasoning so they posed the next question: "but how did he do it? What limb did he use?" Again Gabriel appeared with the help and Q 39:67 was "revealed" where Allah says "and they have estimated god falsley for at the resurrection he shall grasp the entire earth and the heavens folded in his hand" and typical of Islamic delusions the author of the sira believed that Muhammad and his Allah won this little debate

The Rabbis were not impressed but Allah and his rasul were happy with this illogical and poor answer and the case is closed in the sira (see JW: SM)

So let me ask you again the Question that has never been well answered by Allah: Who really created your Allah? so until we have good answer we cannot regard that the claim by Allah that he was not created is a logical answer and this means that Allah cannot be a God oh we can stop here but I will go on

Can Allah die? Well we do not know as he is only 1400 years old and may be the planet where he comes from people live for thousands of years. So Muslims cannot prove this one eithere that Allah cannot die so Allah cannot be a god until he can prove to us that he will not die! You think we should do lunch with him and ask him to provide the evidence? What do you think?

>2. You must not be limited to any particular place in the earth , i.e. you should be able to move everywehre at the earth. Can Jesus do that ?

Well the question is can Allah do that? Well let me see in the story of al-isra' wa al-mi3raj we are told and these are your Islamic sources that when Muhammad got to the top of the seven heavens he saw allah praying! Oh it gets better and Gabriel told him "Shhhhhh Allah is praying" The question is "Allah is praying to whom?" And it seems that at that point Allah was only in one place so he can pray which means that he was not all over the place which means that hecannot be god right our dear deb? Oh there is more in surat al-nijm that Muhammad must have seen Allah who fa awha ilaa 3abdihi ma awha and remember that it cannot be Gabriel because Muhammad is not 3abd to Gabriel but he is 3abd Allah so it seems that at that point in time Allah was only in one place "revealing" to Muhammad right our dear deb which means that he cannot be god

>3. You must not be bound by anything that mortals feel bounded to . Jesus supposedly loved his disciples so that is too human , for my viewpoint.

Oh let me see your Allah describes himself as al-rahman al-raheem or the beneficient and the merciful and these can very much can be human attribues and emotions so your Allah cannot be god these are your words right our dear deb?

>4. You can not be compared to anything on heaven on earth. Allah is incomparable. Can Jesus or any human being for that matter satisfy that ?

Hello: how can you compare some one that no one has seen? Expalin this one to us ya ayuha al-ghalabawi al-kabeer! so utnil Allah revelas himself to me and I can really attest to the fact that he is incomprable your Allah flunks this criterion

Sorry our dear deb but your Allah cannot be a god as he does not even pass your own criteria

Oh I will apply the same test to Jesus and stay tuned

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