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Our dear Deb and his "criteria" and Jesus

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 10, 2010 at 15:36

For the readers tablighees are in the habit of dishing out nonsense about anything including semitic religions and our dear Deb is saying that in-order for some one to claim to be a god he must fulfill his criteria and in a previous post i applied his criteria to allah and guess what? Allah did not pass and I only use Muslim sources and will do the same here with Jesus

>Here are four below criterias (sic):

For the readers: are you ready for a laugh?

>1. You must not have any beginning or any end.To make it easy you shall not be born or you shall not die. Does Jesus satisfy that ?

Oh let me see: the Qur'an says in Arabic a language that you cannot read speak or write

wa makaru wa makara allahu wa allahu kharyru al-makaririna (Q3:54)

Which means that your Allah is a big time makkar and makkar means he who decieves

wa qawlihim inna qatalna al-maseeh 3issa ibn maryam rasula allahi wa maqataluhu wa masalabuhu lakin shubbiha lahum blah...blah....blah... wa ma qataluhu yaqinan bal rafa3ahu allahu ilayhi blah...blah...blah (Q4:157-158)

So Allah al-makkar placed his like on the cross and Jesus did not die

So he is a God so far

Now in regard to his birth with Allah being a makkar or he who decieves and that he is all logic and that there in nothing logical about a virgin birth he must have placed the likes of Jesus in his place like he did at the moment of his crucifiction right our dear Deb? so why did he not tell us? Well the Qur'an does not tell us very much about anything eg: al-sala wa al-sawm wa kimiyat al-zakat so why should he tell us that he placed his likes at the time of his birth?

Then congratulaions but it seems that Jesus is god

>2. You must not be limited to any particular place in the earth , i.e. you should be able to move everywehre at the earth. Can Jesus do that ?

Oh yeah he can after all he is a god and he did not die and he was not born as your allah al-makkar must have placed his like at birth and when he was crucified and he must be in allah's heaven trying to keep busy by being all over the universe now prove me wrong

>3. You must not be bound by anything that mortals feel bounded to . Jesus supposedly loved his disciples so that is too human , for my viewpoint.

Sure Jesus loves but this could be khid3a as Jesus aka Allah is makkar so he can pretend to love when he does not

See? I'm not the author of this poor Islamic theology

>4. You can not be compared to anything on heaven on earth. Allah is incomparable. Can Jesus or any human being for that matter satisfy that ?

Have you ever seen Allah so you can be able to judge that he is "incomprablae" and "incomprable to what? Well the truth is we do not know very much about Allah so we can compare him with jesus

your Allah says that people have seen Jesus and he is incomprable as Allah, and I'm paraphrasing here, fadalahu 3an kul al-rusul and made him ghulmanan zakian (or perfect young man and for this see Q19:19) and these are your Allah's words and not mine

So congratulations our dear deb but it seems that Jesus as per your funny tablighhe criteria is your Allah

Allah? We do not know very much about him to be able to judge him so you think that you and I can check him out and have lunch with him and then we can judge him but until then Jesus passes this part of your little criteria and Allah flunks

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