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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 29, 2010 at 07:40

I wrote

2. Why would the inscriptions in the gadara baths have the name of Mu3awiyya with the sign of the cross next to it?

>My Answer : It does not mean anything.

I read this that you have no answer

But wait: why do you believe me? Hint: go and find those inscriptions and they are available on the web (but I refuse to spoon feed a lazy tablighee) then make up your mind mr ignorant

>What is the proof that the Muawiyya you are talking about is the Muawiyya bin Abu Sufian ?

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic

For the readers the bogus islamic tradition tells that in the 3rd century of Islam the the weeper's name was really Mu3awiyya ibn abi Sufian

>My Answer : I tell you that according to the Islamic tradition the Muwaiyya bin Abu Suffian died well within the first century of Islam. Then from which tradition you are telling n the 3rd century of Islam the the weeper's name was really Mu3awiyya ibn abu Sufian ?

the writings of the islamic historical tradition (the hadith, the sira tarikh ansab etc..) can be dated to the late second and third century of Islam and not any earlier. The extant literary sources we have and you will find in Hoyland survey (oh you can buy a copy for your little madrassa) pages 690-692 calls him

3bd allah Mu3awiyya amir al-mu'mineen

Oh Ibn Abi Sufian? As his last name? it cannot be dated before the thrid century of islam which means that it was all made up

>Wait a minute what do you mean by Pakistani Arabic ? Tell me you blockhead how can one be Pakistani and Arabic at the same time ?

No it means mangled Arabic by a wannabe Arab who is a Pakistani and who believes in his twisted mind that he knows Arabic!

2. Why would the inscriptions in the gadara baths have the name of Mu3awiyya with the sign of the cross next to it?

>My Answer : It does not mean anything.

I read this that you have no answer

>My Answer : Dumbass

The dumbass is he who believes that an Arabian warlord and caravan raider spoke to an Arabian deity via an angel

>what is the proof that the coins you are talking about was used by Muwaiyya ibn Abu sufiyaan's time ?

Oh so now it is ibn and not your bogus bin right and you think that i did not notice? Hello: his name is Mu3awiyya period the ibn abi Sufian is a late addition by the bogus composers of the islamic historical tradition that wanted to link a Christian Syrian Arab to the bogus Mecca

>Anyway you probably even do not know about someone called Abu Sufiyyan right ?

Abu Sufian and his little life is no more than another part of the qissa that had to be created. Remember the story of Mariyya al-Qibtiyya? you see when the qassas lies he has to create more lies so we start with a surat al-tahreem that does not make any sense then a mariyya character is created and then add jahshan (daldul wa zarzur) and a sister and a castrated slave and a letter and al-muqawqas et voila we have a story! Is it real history? No it is only a qissa and the same here Mu3awiyya had to have a father and a connection to the Hijaz which I suspect that he had nothing to do with it otherwise he would have established his capital in Mecca. But the ulama (in the 3rd century of islam when these stories were being composed) knew very well that they are being watched by non Muslims and that lies had to be created about persons in distant Mecca 300 years before!

>Do you know someone called Abu Sufiyyan ?

Another bogus creation just like Muhammad's kunya Abul Qasim so who was really this Qasim? It is all qissas and no more

>Anyway I think it is too much for me to expect a dumbass like you to know who Abu Sufiyaan was ?

A dumbass is he who believes the Islamic historical tradition and believes al-ansab literature where the name Abu Sufian was created

3. Why would Mu3awiyya select his capital as Damascus anot not miserable Mecca unless he was a Syrian Arab and almost all of them were Christian?

>My Answer : And why did the so-called founding fathers made their capital in Washington DC and not in Athens , Rome or Jerusalem if all of you are descendants of the so-called Greco-Roman civilization. If you get this answer then you will not ask that question that you asked above.

I read this as you have no answer right?

No I'm asking you about Mu3awiyya so why did he select Damascus as his capital and not Mecca? Surpise me with an answer

>My Answer : Stupid when you answer my question why your founders did not establish the capital at Athens,Rome or Jerusalem but in Washington DC you will know the answer of your question why Muwaiyya set up it's capital at Damascus .

I reade this as: you really do not know

Now let me help you: you think he selected Damascus and not Mecca because

1. He was a Christian and Syrian Arabs

2. Mecca just did not exist

3. Because his cutlic center kanisat yuhanna al-mi3midani was located in Damascus?

So which one is it?

And why did the Brits that invaded India not move their capital from London to let us say: Delhi? Do you know why? Because there was a prosperous London. Mecca? It is a late creation by the Islamic tradition

5. Why would the coins minted have the sing of the cross on them?

>My Answer : Barack Hussain Obama has "Hussain" and "Barack" in his name. Does it mean that he is Jew or Muslim ? Signs on coins does not mean anything. Have you heard about someone called Sultan Baybars al-Bunduqdari ? In his coins we find a lion inscribed. Now lion as you know is also a sign of the flag of the Buddhist nation of Sri Lanka. By your analogy then if crosses on coin means Christian then lion on coin must mean Buddhist. Do you want to mean that Sultan Baybars al-Bunduqdari was a Buddhist ?

Gobbledygook. So why do we have the sign on the cross on his coins? Any guesses?

>My Answer : How do I know that there were crosses at those coins ? Show me at least the video of those coins ,

Then go and read a real book and no I do not spoon feed ...

>blockhead ?

The blockhead is he who lectures us about al-hunuud al-humr but does not seem to care about his own Hindu ancestors that were brutalized by islam. A blockhead is he who falls for the religion of the Arabs and he who does not realize that islam is the religion of the Arabs only

6. How come we do not hear about the name Muhammad for 72 years after the death of that Muhammad? Could it be because he never existed and was a late creation?

>My Answer : See the first Gospel was written down 75 years after Jesus. How can we do not see anything about in the meantime.

Well your Allah says that al-injiil inahu kitaban muharraf

Oh this is not Syriac it is Arabic! But you know what? I do not translate Arabic for wannabe arabs like you

> Does that mean Jesus was a late creation and never existed ?

I care less if he did or did not exist

>My Answer : Who told you this information that there is no mention of Mohammad 72 years after his death ?

Check Hoyland survey mr ignorant. Google it or go to amazon and check it

For the readers: there is not even a single extant word about Muhammad in the Arabic language islamic sources before 72AH or 92CE so where was he? And you will find Mu3awiyya's name but you will not find the late creation of Mu3awiyya ibn abi Sufian. Where would you find such information? It is all in Hoyland survey which our dear Deb is too lazy to google or he did and he is trying to stall the inevitable that he has been exposed as ignorant

> I hope your references are not those two old German haggards ?

Oh and I know an old Arab "haggard" do you want to know about him?

Oh did you check their book? you can google it too

> Does that mean Jesus was a late creation and never existed ?

I care less if he did or did not exist

>My Answer : Too bad , if I contact some of your friends in the Bible belt that this crusader Dhimmi no more does not care about Jesus , you know what is going to happen to you , right ?

Oh you are not even original but this is too funny to just let go so stay tuned for part trois

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