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Submitted by Lactantius Jr (United Kingdom), Jan 23, 2009 at 15:14

To Amin Razaque

Do you really want to point out the "contradictions and fallacies" in the Gospels and the Torah? don't you know that Allah claimed he wrote them?

"Step by step, he has sent the Scripture down to you (Prophet) with the Truth, confirming what went before: He sent down the Torah and the Gospel earlier as a guide for people, and he has sent down the distinction (between right and wrong) Those who deny Allah's revelations will suffer severe torment : Allah is almighty and capable of retribution."

Surah 3:3-4

As a Muslim, you will accept that Allah revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad, and here is how the Qur'an describes that,

"Truly, this Qur'an has been sent down by the Lord of the Worlds: The Trustworthy Spirit brought it down to your heart (Prophet) so that you could bring warning in a clear Arabic tongue."

Surah 26:192-195

As a Muslim you will also presumably believe that Allah's word is perfect and cannot contain error, don't you know that Allah says none can change his word?

"There is none that can alter the words and decrees of Allah."

Surah 6:34

"----------none can change his words-----------"

Surah 18:27

"The word of your Lord is complete in its truth and justice: No one can change his words: He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing."

Surah 6:115

"And my word cannot be changed: I am not unjust to any creature."

Surah 50:29

Christians are told to look into their own Scriptures to find Allah's revelation for them:-

"Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are no better than those who rebel."

Sura 5:47

and even Muhammad himself at one point, is exhorted to test the truthfullness of his own message, against the contents of the previous Divine revelations to Jews and Christians:-

"If thou wert in doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee, the truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord, so be in no wise of those in doubt."

Surah 10:94

For emphasis, here is what the Qur'an at Surah's 5:47,66&68 says about both Testaments of the Bible,

"Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."

"If only they had stood fast by the Law, by the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil."

"Say: ‘O people of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon, unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to thee from thy Lord. It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not, over these people without faith.' "

So let's take stock Mr Razaque,

The Qur'an says Allah revealed it; it says Allah sent down the Torah and the Gospel; it says none can change the words of Allah; it says the people of the Gospel should judge by what it says, it says they should stand fast by it.

Do you really want to point out "contradictions and fallacies in the Gospels and Torah" Mr Razaque?

I put it to you that every time you dig "contradictions and fallacies" out of the Gospels and Torah, you confirm that the Qur'an is wrong, and prove that the bedrock of Islam is faulty.

If you think to prove the Bible wrong because of some contradictions you have piled up, then think about the contradiction between the Qur'an and your confidence in this "proof".

If you really want to go ahead and "point out the contradictions and fallacies with-in Gospels and Torah?" please go ahead Mr Razaque, and be prepared for me to respond with lists of contradictions from the Qur'an, demonstrating that the Qur'an contains many contradictions.

Believing, as a Muslim, that you will be called to account by Allah on the Day of Judgement, puts you well and truly on the spot doesn't it? having to face Allah with your ugly accusation that the Torah and the Gospels are not perfect and without errors, both containing contradictions and error, and that he was unable to keep his words from being changed/corrupted/altered.

Rather than claim there are "contradictions and fallacies" in the Gospels and Torah I recommend that you listen to what the Qur'an really says about the Torah and the Gospel. However, that would lead you to the unavoidable conclusion that the Qur'an is not from the all-holy, ever-living Triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and I conclude by asking you Mr Razaque, if the Bible is good enough for Allah, was good enough for Muhammad, and was good enough for 8 of Islam's most eminent scholars and theologians who are mentioned below, why is it not good enough for you?

Many great MUSLIM teachers DID NOT believe the Bible had been corrupted and ACCEPTED the authenticity of our PRESENT New Testament texts.

a. Ali al-Tabari (died 855 AD) accepted the Gospel texts

b. Amr al-Ghakhiz (869 AD) " " " "

c. BUKHARI (810-870 Ad) " " " "

he gathered some of the earliest tradition of Islam, and quoted the Qur'an itself to support his belief in the text of the Bible Surah 3:72,78)

d. Al-Mas'udi (956 AD) " " " "

e. Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina (1037 AD)" " "

f. AL-GHAZZALI (1111 AD) " " " "

probably the greatest Muslim scholar, he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings

g. Ibn-Khaldun (1406 AD) " " " " " "

he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings, but rather believed the earlier Islamic teachers.

h. Fakhruddin Razi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, a nephew of Muhammed, "The Jews and early Christians were suspected of altering the text of the Taurat and Injil; but in the opinion of eminent doctors and theologians it was not practicable thus to corrupt the text, because those Scriptures were generally known and widely circulated, having been handed down from generation to generation."

The messages of both the Bible and the Qur'an are well preserved Mr Razaque. The Qur'an gives massive testimony to the Bible as the word of Allah, and the Bible documents the Lord Jesus Christ saying very clearly who He is, and what He, and only He can freely give to all those who want it. The central issue is made crystal-clear in John 3:36 where we read:-

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life. For God's wrath remains on him."

and the Apostle John, inspired of the Holy Spirit, writes:-

"Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing, you may have life in His Name."

John 20:30&31

With the Lord Jesus Christ saying of Himself:-

"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in Me will never really die at all. Do you believe this?"

John 11:25&26

There are many other clear words of life in the "Book of Life" (the Bible), and I warmly commend the Bible to you Mr Razaque. Should you wish to read it for yourself, you can read it online in many different translations into the English language at Bible Gateway,


but whichever translation you use to read more about The Lord Jesus Christ's words, teaching, life, death and resurrection from the dead to eternal life, it is indeed "good news, or news which brings joy," entirely reliable and trustworthy, and when its message of life in Jesus' Name is accepted, able to ensure that many former Muslims will be part of that "great crowd around the throne of the Lamb."

Revelation 7:9

How I long for you to enter life in Jesus' Name

With kind regards and best wishes

Lactantius Jr


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