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Declare Victory and bring back our kids: Not be scared of "shariyaa"

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Submitted by Moin Ansari: AMERICAN JEWISH MUSLIM ALLIANCE (United States), Apr 15, 2004 at 11:41

Dr. Pipes:

We fully and wholeheartedly support your advice that "occupying forces quickly to leave Iraqi cities and then, when feasible, to leave Iraq as a whole". We support America declaring victory in Iraq and bringing our young children home and out of harm's way. One more American dead is one too many. The United Nations with large contingents of Pakistani, Bangladeshi troops or an army made up of the Organization of Islamic Conferences (OIC) could bring Iraq back to some sort of political stability that precludes it becoming a breeding ground for terrorists. We can then continue our efforts to bring democracy to Iraq and the Middle East through education and coercion.

Your historical analysis was eloquent, though there were major exceptions to the European "avoidance" of Muslim lands. The British took over almost all Ottoman provinces "countries" of the Middle East; the Spanish tried to control "Maghreb" in West Africa; the British controlled Nigeria; the Dutch tried to hold on to Indonesia; the Spanish eliminated Islam from the Philippines (which used to be 96% Muslim); the French tired to keep Algeria as part of France, and India (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), though it was not a Muslim country but it had a very large Muslim population, was of course the jewel in the crown of the British Empire. The Muslim propensity to seek to live under "shariya" law could be as innocuous as Jews wishing to follow their dietary laws, and observing Sabbath. Living in any country, Muslims can say their prayers, give "zakat" (alms), go for pilgrimage and be good to their fellow human beings. Without over romanticizing the 800 year period, you clearly have previously said that given that this was medieval time, the era of Muslim rule (711-1492) was the "Golden Age of Jewry" where Muslims, Jews and Christians lived in relative harmony in Al-Andulusia for about 800 years under Muslim rule. Other than brief periods, there was peace and tolerance. During this period Hasdai Shaprut, a Jew was prime minister and chief of the armed forces for 30 years; During the same period Samuel Nigrid, a Jew was also vazier (Prime minister). One of the greatest Jews of all time Moses Maimonides (Musa Ibn Maymun) who eventually became the prince of Jews and was the personal physician of Sultan Saladdin wrote all his books in Arabic (except one).There was nothing to be afraid of "shariya" for the non-Muslims. We should not be afraid of the "shariya" today. If the "shariya" means destroying peace, tolerance, or imposing ones religion or ones idea on others, it is not "shariya" it is bigoted totalitarianism and this has nothing to do with Islam or the "shariyaa".

The problem arises when one group tries to impose its ideas on others. It is when the Patriot Act or the "shariyaa" or Jewish Law, or Christian fundamentalism, or Hooto/Tootsi governments, or Sinhalese rule, or Tamil laws in Gujrat or imposition of Hindu "Rajha Rama" is wrongly implemented or is implemented by bigots and bad people, it is then that we should be concerned about the bad implementation by bad people. In some cases the official Middle Eastern interpretation of Islam is wrong in its implementation in many countries. In many third world countries good laws are used to create bigotry. This is wrong. In our own land the wonderful Bible was used to justify slavery. The bad people and the bad laws were over ridden by good people and good laws. In many Muslim countries the rights of women, Jews, minorities, other Arabs, and non-Arab Muslims are not protected.

The treatment of Jews in many Muslim countries is atrocious today, but it was not always so. Jews could only live in Muslim countries for many centuries after the Spanish inquisition. What changed? The religion was the same. The Muslims changed. The rights of non-royal Muslims, or minority Muslims are not protected in many Muslim lands. This is wrong and has to be corrected thorough education and the correct interpretation of Islam, not through demonization of a particular religion which only creates more enemies. Even though Bin Laden and others have put us backwards in many ways, things on the whole are improving. Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia and some of the smaller Gulf Emirates are moving towards democracy and this constitutes more than 80% of the Muslim population. Even the Saudis and the Libyans are moving in the right direction.

We support your article and the thesis, since it reverberates with what the founding fathers our great country told us to do "convert enemies into friends." 2 million Muslims died for America and the West in destroying the USSR in the 80s. Pakistanis and the Arabs who thought of America in funding a just war against the evil empire (USSR) gave their lives for America and the West. We need to quickly adopt policies to expropriate these lost souls so that they work with us not against us. This is the way to bring peace to the region.

In your book "Militant Islam" (should have been "Militant zealots"), you have rightly defined the root causes of the problem as pride and ego. Until and unless we look at the real root causes of the problems, and solve them on a case by case basis, we will always be in trouble. Bring peace by "converting enemies into friends" not creating more enemies.

God Bless You and God Bless America



Best Regards,

Moin Ansari

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Peace among all the people [125 words]Ashley Ansara, DVM, PhDOct 12, 2005 00:2326833
missing facts... [270 words]linzApr 27, 2004 22:1214910
What Strongman. [64 words]Sheldon LazarowtzApr 27, 2004 16:4314899
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2The American 'weakness' [248 words]Raymond T. KyleApr 23, 2004 19:0314849
British rule in Egypt [62 words]Paul SavitzApr 22, 2004 15:5214839
Yes, but... [177 words]BrianApr 20, 2004 22:4714810
Excellent, and the implications for Israel? [91 words]Y Brandstetter MDApr 20, 2004 05:5014783
Rebellion? [297 words]TomApr 19, 2004 11:4014773
What about Iran? [58 words]JoeApr 18, 2004 15:5314770
It won't work [181 words]Darwin BarrettApr 18, 2004 13:5614769
Isn't this different? [202 words]DavidApr 18, 2004 12:5014768
we need to use more force [53 words]G singhApr 18, 2004 03:4314761
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To Val Shkolnikov... [61 words]gjsApr 16, 2004 19:2214741
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Regarding Muslim rule by Muslims only. [64 words]Arthur S. GoldbergApr 16, 2004 16:0514738
Much Debatable History Lesson [93 words]Matthew ScribnerApr 16, 2004 12:1014732
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Aesop and Daniel [59 words]Reality CheckApr 15, 2004 15:4814727
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Declare Victory and bring back our kids: Not be scared of "shariyaa" [1031 words]Moin Ansari: AMERICAN JEWISH MUSLIM ALLIANCEApr 15, 2004 11:4114721
On Muslim Theology [211 words]Fay VoshellApr 15, 2004 08:4714720
MUCH NEEDED HISTORY LESSON [86 words]Tova MatteroApr 15, 2004 02:2514716
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"Democratically-minded"? [63 words]
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Melvin A. FechterApr 14, 2004 22:5614708
A Combination of Roots of Rebellion [28 words]Timothy B. RobertsApr 14, 2004 22:0314707
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Sistani=Strongman? [14 words]FredApr 14, 2004 19:3014704
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Islam and democracy, like oil and water. [159 words]Bill SweeneyApr 14, 2004 12:4214696
But then there are the Utopians..... [326 words]Diane AldenApr 14, 2004 12:3514695
I agree mostly: [127 words]William OliverApr 14, 2004 12:2114693
Brilliant as usual! [6 words]Walter D'UllApr 14, 2004 11:1114692
recipe unworkable for lack of key ingredient [72 words]H.C. KlingmanApr 14, 2004 10:3514691
Two Questions [98 words]JGApr 14, 2004 10:3414690
Superb article [29 words]Charles DICKINSONApr 14, 2004 10:0514688
How can Muslim ambitions be confined to their own? [356 words]Chana GivonApr 14, 2004 10:0114687
Sure this plan will work? [35 words]John PhilipsApr 14, 2004 06:4514685
Deadline is for Iran, not Iraq [117 words]BarryApr 14, 2004 05:2714682
Idealism [343 words]Robert VaughnApr 14, 2004 01:4214681
Highly Imformative [259 words]AvrahamApr 14, 2004 01:3614680
Hope springs eternal [187 words]gjsApr 14, 2004 00:1414676
I agree [47 words]Joanne PostelmansApr 13, 2004 23:5114675
disagree on failure [128 words]George TomkinApr 13, 2004 23:3214674
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I Have a question [149 words]Arthur BayApr 13, 2004 21:4614670
There are Muslims and there are Muslims. [288 words]MalvinaApr 13, 2004 21:2714669
Excellent [14 words]Peter KellyApr 13, 2004 20:2214667
This last article-about pulling out and leaving behind a strongman [163 words]Gary (2nd generation American/ Indiana-born)Apr 13, 2004 20:1514666
Ah, history! [197 words]Peter J. HerzApr 13, 2004 20:0314665
roots of conflict in Iraq [166 words]donvanApr 13, 2004 19:4714664
Telling the Truth but with one problem [1487 words]
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Seth J. FrantzmanApr 13, 2004 19:2114663
Question [234 words]Dan ReidApr 13, 2004 18:3514661
Another Ataturk or regional wars [168 words]Ilona MelstradsApr 13, 2004 17:4914659
Additional Actions we can Take [228 words]Gary kardonApr 13, 2004 17:4414658
There are two fallacies in Pipes' analysis: [432 words]TanruApr 13, 2004 17:4314657
Agreed, but ... [15 words]Ira WeinerApr 13, 2004 17:3914656
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On the other hand.. [280 words]ScottApr 13, 2004 15:1314649
Tantamount to re-establishing Hussein. [448 words]Kirk BertinoApr 13, 2004 14:4814646
History not always a good teacher [83 words]Fan of Dr. PipesApr 13, 2004 14:4414645
on "The Roots of Iraq's Rebellion" [146 words]VladApr 13, 2004 14:3814644
A new and more terrible future Iraqi uprising. [152 words]Thomas C. Nixon--Ph. D.Apr 13, 2004 14:3214643
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Finding a strong-man to rule Iraq - come on! [309 words]Lloyd Lionel KleinApr 13, 2004 14:1614641
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Missing the point [106 words]JoaquimApr 13, 2004 13:3814638
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is hope disappearing [228 words]john W. mcginleyApr 13, 2004 13:2614636
Which strong man? [120 words]Howard MirkinApr 13, 2004 13:2014635
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Missing the Point [19 words]Bob GreenbergApr 13, 2004 12:5214633
Iraq was never united as a country, it was coerced [112 words]Ken BesigApr 13, 2004 12:4514632

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