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Submitted by Ed Melik, Esq. (United States), Jun 23, 2007 at 01:15

In reference to Mr. S. C Panda (June 21, 2007) I would like to enlighten Mr. Panda about the masked gorilla fighters. If he studies his own country's history of masked men he would come to perhaps understand and appreciate the tactics of the masked gorillas. An excerpt from one of the historical writings of India's masked soldiers.

It dates back to the time when Shivaji used to reign Maharashtra. Masked soldiers was a tactic that was plotted by him to capture his enemies. According to the plan Shivaji and his associates used to hide behind rocks or some hide out and wage war during night or any other time when the enemy is least expecting it.

Another excerpt from another report of Israeli masked soldiers:

Over the hill, smoke rose from the smoldering remains of tires set afire to stall the soldiers' approach to this West Bank settlement, one of four slated for evacuation after the removal of all Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza evacuation had gone more smoothly than the military authorities had expected, and residents of two West Bank settlements left voluntarily. Black masked Israeli soldiers searched the homes of those Israeli settlers who refused to leave their homes. Nachmani, 38, is commander of the Second Platoon of the Dawn Battalion, a black masked battalion created three months ago specifically to handle disengagement. His platoon underwent intensive scenario training and was already battle tested, having helped empty the synagogue in the Gaza settlement of Neve Dekalim last week."

In retrospect, if Mr. Panda was a Hamas soldier knowing the following historical facts and the current Israeli policies of forced occupation and forced expulsion of the native Arabs from their land, would he confront Israel's mighty armed forces openly like a gallant brave soldier? Read the historical records and see if you find yourself in Hamas's shoe fighting a war of liberation from illegal occupier of their land:

In 1940, Joseph Weitz, the head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department, which was responsible for the actual organization of settlements in Palestine, wrote:

"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left. We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.

Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, declaimed: "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."

These are the words of Uri Lubrani, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, in 1960: "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters."

Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Armed Forces stated:

We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel ... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours

Eitan elaborated before the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee:

"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do will be to scurry around like drugged roaches in a bottle".

Ben Gurion wrote in 1938 he told the World Council of Poale Zion in Tel Aviv, "Israel include southern Lebanon, southern Syria, today's Jordan, all of Cis-Jordan [West Bank] and the Sinai."

Where's the outrage of self proclaimed "civilized people" and "open and free press" etc, etc,?

When General Yigal Allon asked Ben Gurion, "What is to be done with the population of Lydda and Ramle?" – some 50,000 inhabitants – Ben Gurion, according to his biographer, waved his hand and said, "Drive them out!"

Yitzhak Rabin carried out this edict. In Lydda and Ramle, no remnants of Palestinian dwellings remain. "Today this area is occupied entirely by the Jewish settler population. Michael Bar Zohar, in his biography of David Ben Gurion, describes Ben Gurion's first visit to Nazareth. Ben Gurion looked around in astonishment and said, 'Why are there so many Arabs, why didn't you drive them out?'"

The Palestinians were indeed driven out. Between November 29, 1947, when the United Nations partitioned Palestine, and May 15, 1948, when the State was formally proclaimed, the Zionist army and militia had seized 75% of Palestine, forcing 780,000 Palestinians out of the country.

So let's see how many brave and patriotic Panda's are there to face the forces of terror with worlds most advanced weaponry and well dug in intellegence forces into all segments of Palestinians and the Arab population for the purpose of seeking to identified the "intefada" soldiers?

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Correction: 3 Palestines: [26 words]M EAug 18, 2007 19:16
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Shut down the "Mosques.! [40 words]Tony DinesJul 25, 2007 20:16
Poll Shows Palestinians want Israel "occupying" Gaza Again. [447 words]YnnatchkahJun 25, 2007 02:44
I really have to laugh [74 words]Seamus MacNemiJul 2, 2007 02:47
You are right, Seamus MacNemi [37 words]YnnatchkahJul 2, 2007 21:36
Atificial state [245 words]DallasJun 24, 2007 23:14
Great summary [64 words]Salomon BenzimraJun 23, 2007 23:05
Fantasy land [121 words]arthurJun 22, 2007 15:04
Strange Bedfellows II [103 words]BlackspeareJun 22, 2007 10:01
Strange Bedfellows? [82 words]BlackspeareJun 21, 2007 08:58
Two Palestines, Anyone? [57 words]S.C.PandaJun 21, 2007 05:33
⇒ Two Palestines, Anyone? [826 words]Ed Melik, Esq.Jun 23, 2007 01:15
Pipes points were vindicated [255 words]Amitabh TripathiJun 21, 2007 03:53
Two Palestines, Anyone? [3898 words]Ed Melik, Esq.Jun 21, 2007 03:14
Palestinians are Sowing what they Reaped [273 words]Mel LarawayJun 23, 2007 15:29
Dear Ed Melik, Esq., why did you leave out Egypt from this puzzle? [307 words]MosheJun 24, 2007 04:43
Ed Melik's rewrites history [703 words]InfidelJun 24, 2007 15:05
Palestinians are reaping what they sowed [153 words]MosheJun 24, 2007 15:18
perpetual refugees.. [72 words]donvanJun 25, 2007 11:34
No more blame game, enough with the violence [523 words]Bryan JacksonJun 26, 2007 21:56
Two Palestines, anyone? [614 words]Ed Melik, Esq.Jul 1, 2007 14:50
That's quite a schpiel Mr. Malik [180 words]Seamus MacNemiJul 2, 2007 03:59
Hamas & Fatah; Confusing the European Elite [90 words]David P.Jun 20, 2007 23:51
Actually, that would be three "Palestines" now [6 words]DanJun 20, 2007 14:11
Actually, it is four Palestinian States [175 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDJun 20, 2007 16:02
Yuval, please don't try to scare us. [261 words]MosheJun 25, 2007 15:22
Baruch haShem, eh Moishe? [17 words]Seamus MacNemiJul 2, 2007 04:27
Nobody wants a Palestinian State in the Middle East--except George Bush [702 words]Martin KesslerJun 20, 2007 11:57
Here We Go Again [125 words]BlackspeareJun 20, 2007 11:32
poor Israeli Jews will be sandwiched between Islamic Jehad , Muslim Fatah and Jehadi Hamas ! [97 words]ConcernsJun 20, 2007 09:50
Hamas, Fata, Islami Jihad, Hezbolla - All jumping and screaming because they are not afraid of Israel [147 words]James BurkeJun 20, 2007 20:35
ok right... [70 words]Hamri Al-AssadJun 21, 2007 21:58
Why are you jealous of Israel Money and Resources [44 words]HirooJun 23, 2007 06:39
Send Jimmy [85 words]LDCJun 20, 2007 08:10
Would Mr Pipes or readers help me clarify these questions? Thank you! [265 words]TammyJun 20, 2007 02:29
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Tammy - a few thoughts [562 words]PatJun 20, 2007 16:56
Tammy's Questions [264 words]LDCJun 20, 2007 17:15
To LDC [237 words]TammyJun 22, 2007 04:08
To Pat. [317 words]TammyJun 22, 2007 04:33
To M. Tovey [262 words]TammyJun 22, 2007 04:42
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Gardens in the desert - I think not [226 words]David W. LincolnJun 19, 2007 23:06
ONLY SOLUTION: GAZA TO EGYPT; WEST BANK PARTITIONED WITH JORDAN [232 words]MGJun 19, 2007 21:40
Idiots in The US Executive Branch [58 words]Ralph C Whaley MDJun 19, 2007 20:03
Yes and No [290 words]john w mcginleyJun 19, 2007 18:12
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A LIBERAL RESPONDS!!!! The Danger of Generalizing Fatah and Hamas [1115 words]Chris G.Jun 19, 2007 15:54
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to Chris G, the researcher and social scientist, and oh! the liberal [117 words]ASJun 25, 2007 02:40
A LIBERAL RESPONDS TO MR. AS- Emotional responses are not logical, nor productive in problem solving. [1598 words]Chris G.Jun 26, 2007 01:38
to Chris G [650 words]ASJun 27, 2007 01:58
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Penalty [51 words]true believerJun 20, 2007 04:17
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