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Submitted by AS (India), Jun 27, 2007 at 01:58

I posed you some questions. i think you should look at them again. my disagreement with you is that you keep on legitimizing islam, and i have serious issues with it. any religion has spiritual, philosophical, theological and temporal foundations. and over this core lies a culture. for example, concept of salvation in christianity, philosophy of karma in hinduism or laws of dhamma in buddhism or duality from taoism. the cultural layer above it manifests itself in the form of festivals and various practices etc, which originates from the land where the concept was born. without going into further detail, it is because of these reasons that i want islam to be delegitmized, not due to 9/11. because islam's core is empty. its essential pillars arer hackneyed, borrowed from judaism/chistianity and have no depth. charity, and praying 5 times towards mecca and like that. the argument that shows me what mohammad brought that was not new is very valid.

now because this religion is empty, it relies on violence and idea of spreading and domination. do you agree that this religion was spread by sword? if yes, then why are you granting legitimacy to this religion? why do you think there is demand for sharia law by muslims everywhere in the west? have u ever talked to anyone who has left islam? forget that. have you read koran? go and check whats the percentage of violent verses and anti women verses in that book that are followed literally, unlike the bible. and dont think that because christianity also went through a dark phase, so its ok. its not ok. there are differences between dark ages of christianity and islam. i can go on and on.

but like i said before, i disagree on islam. and i don't know if you have talked to these so called islamic scholars. i repeat, just because 1 billion peopel believe in something does not mean its correct. islam has always been arab imperialism. i see British colonialism and arabic egypt in the same vein and a wannabe mullah learning arabic in indonesia as a despicable sign of cultural imperialism that islam has imposed on non arabic people.

and no matter what you say, its you guys who are helping radical islam. like i said, your promotion and dialogue with islam is going to bring the fight in the next decade to the streets of DC and San Francisco. as long as the 'islamic' nature of these countries exist, their idea of world domination and islamic dominance will always be there, and even the moderate muslim will keep dreaming of that.

Nancy Pelosi is a fool and George Bush is an idiot. they both dont understand that they are fighting a religious ideology. you fight a tank with an anti tank missile, not with a submarine. the church has to be brought in the front. secularism can never be used in answering against the religion onslaught of islam.

and i am worried that because of ppl like you, we might actually lose. barabrians have always won against the civilised. Rome was sacked many times. and barbaric arabs demolished persia, byzantine and india.

please go through my last post again. if you think that one day you could create a condition where Bin Laden will lose an election in an islamic country and that there will be churches and temples and synagogues in Saudi Arabia, then someone needs help. not the moderate muslims.

i have always thought of the religious right as village fools. but when i see dangerous people on the liberal left, i go further towards right. i want the church to be at the forefront now. islam decides the lowest common denominator in this struggle and we have to stoop to that level. i dont want a Hussein Obama President of USA unless theres a John Smith as a senator of Mecca. period.


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