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To Lisa and a few others, my final comments!

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Submitted by AMK (India), Dec 6, 2005 at 05:56

Is this a sarcastic statement? If not tell me specifically what didn't you like about what I wrote. Please read the bibles to understand what should truly govern humanity......
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Of course, isn't it obvious that it was sarcastic? Sure, I will read the bible. Which version should I start with?
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This is enough if it is true, but it is not true in Islam, I would assume that you have read my previous contributions since you had commented on the 10 commandments..........
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Husbands and wives; treat each other with love care, Allah has made man and woman as a support & love for one another, and so many other verses, of course you won't believe them so lets leave it at that. About Extra Marital sex, it is just not permitted, full stop! Muslims who practice one word Talaq are wrong, just like non Muslims who practice polygamy. Don't jump to conclusions using examples of practices by bad Muslims. A woman or a man cannot be forced to marry against their wishes, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) annulled marriages which were based on force.

Equality can be defined in relative terms only; it would be stupid of anyone to say that women and men are equal on physical, psychological, emotional basis.
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Please tell me what signs are you referring to.............
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All the peaceful messages are taken from Christianity, all the deriding remarks about Jesus (PBUH) and Mariam are left out, all the incorrect scientific & historical facts have been corrected? Ok, lets leave it at that then. Lisa, question yourself a little more!
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When I mentioned Sharawai and Qaradawi, it means that those people have judged (Ifta').....
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The Holy Prophet (PBUH) married his wives before the revelation was revealed of no more wives, and it was also revealed that he is not allowed to divorce any of his wives. Around that time and in that age the Arabs had hundreds of wives.

I have to do things in consultation with my wife. But if I come to the decision to marry someone for the good of it (may be she is a divorcee, needy, etc.) then I can; however, if she has put a condition in the marriage contract then I can't

BTW, my wife would kill me if I even thought about marrying another woman :-)
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What do you mean?, so are you with cutting thieves hands?.......
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There are rules and regulations governing cutting off hands too. In Islam education is an obligation, just like Zakat (fin support). You didn't answer my question, will cutting off hands increase or decrease crime.
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There is separation in Christianity under circumstances like the one you have explained.......
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Ok, whatever you say! BTW, in which version of Christianity?
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I heard this so many times from muslims,............
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What verses from which version of the Bible? I have heard Christians giving varying responses from nothing is mentioned to Polygyny being permitted. I have answered your 13 wives question above!
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I don't know where this number comes from,..............
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From the US Census figures. Lol, I am not Ahmed! You seem to be an expert about Human nature and needs so no further argument from me.
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Zakat is equivalent to charity in Christianity,...............
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Charity is compulsory in Christianity? I didn't assume women to be illiterate, I posed a hypothetical question. Islam doesn't stop women from working, from supporting her family!

In Christianity husband and wife vow to live together for bad and for good......
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Yes I can see fine examples of this in modern society. Now am I not behaving just like you, jumping to conclusions based on practices of the so called followers?
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If a man had a "wado' i.e. clean and ready for pray then his wado' will considered bad if he had a hand shake with a woman. Interesting!!........
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Wow, really! I learn more and more about Islam from you Lisa (that was sarcastic if you didn't realise)
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We Christians believe in decency,.......
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This sounds great on the face of it but who decides the level of decency. Some may consider mini skirts decent, some may consider bikini tops decent. We believe the creator has created everything in the worlds; he has defined decency, for man and woman.
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Where do muslim get this concept,...............
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Lisa, the challenge to you (with the help of all your helpers amongst men and jinns) still stands, produce one Surah even similar to the Holy Quran! Submit it to a neutral Arabic scholar and get his/her view. If you fear retribution you can use the various tools available on the internet to hide your identity. Yes I have heard of Salman Rushdie, why did he also try to produce a Surah? Using a swear word for every 5 words is his idea of literary genius? Actually I think a lot of posters here take inspiration from him.
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Unlike Quran, we don't claim that the bible is a scientific book
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Do you claim that it is the Word of God or not? If not then why follow anything written in it, just change laws to suit your needs. Isn't that what is happening today? If you claim that it is the Word of God then are you saying that God made mistakes? That is deplorable!
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To my Indian Hindus here:

I don't want to beat the old drum again about Islam being spread by the sword, people choose to ignore the Indonesia and Malaysia statements. I do not agree and do not buy your theory about forced conversions and there is a lot of text and history to prove otherwise. You of course will never even try to search for it as it may make you question yourself.

Your preconceived notions about Muslims in India is what is making the matter worse. Claiming to be peaceful and victims of imaginary historic Islamic force, your veiled remarks seem to encourage genocide carried out against Muslims in India (you know what incidents I'm referring to).

It is rather silly and hateful of you to attribute natural calamities to God's hand against Muslim. This truly shows your hatred for Muslims. Can I mention hundreds of natural calamities around the world which have befallen various peoples and attribute them to God's punishment? No, it would be evil on my part to do that!

Hindus do not even know what their religion prescribes. The Mahabharata has 1000s of verses about fighting. Sri Krishna in the Bhagwad Gita tells Arjun "how can you get an impotent thought like not fighting; you are a Kshatriya, you have to fight; and if you get killed you will go to heaven, if you win you will get the booty of the war, the good of the world. It would be evil on my part to imply that Sri Krishna urged Arjun to kill his cousins; I would be using statements out of context. Something you people do not fail to do!

Hinduism is not even a religion, please read what the great Hindu scholars & reformers of India have to say. Hindus should be called Vedist or Vedantist. Follow the Vedas! And do you even know what the Vedas say about The Creator, about the Rishis? Surely not.
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