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Muslims, as a group, do not fit into Western society. Also, It's Not Trump's Fault; and Welcome to Laputa

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Aug 18, 2016 at 20:22

Hello, Dajjal

You seem to fault Donald Trump, for being too politically correct and not sufficiently anti-Islamic. I wish you could use your zeal, to convince Daniel Pipes that The Donald is indeed, exceedingly moderate! Unfortunately, I don't believe Daniel is all that concerned about the Republican's stance on Islam, his economic policies, his stance on law and order, or any of the other issues that generally interest voters. Instead, he is convinced that my favorite candidate is an "ignorant narcissist" (whatever that means).

Here is my position on this election:

1. Concerning Islam.

The Muslims have been with us for some for about 1400 years. Of course, they have been enemies of Western society... and of Persian society, and Hindu society, and Chinese society and Buddhist society! They have fought many wars of conquest against all of these -- in the name of Islam! They are not like us, nor like anyone who is not a Muslim. As a people, they are our natural enemies; and when they attempt to dominate or supplant us, it is in our interest to fight them.

Of course, we have not fought them; but instead have tried to accomodate them. This is not Islam's fault, but our own: It is as the Apostle Paul said,

Romans 2:
[22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

In other words, as Western people, we have become so self-righteous in our unGodliness that we feel morally superior to people who make distinctions -- such as distinctions between Muslim and Christian, right and wrong, good and evil. Our Laputan leaders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laputa

have one eye in the sky, beholding the heavens, and one eye pointed inward in introspection, while they go about bombing people on the earth in order to exact tribute. It doesn't matter, whether those people are Muslims, Christians, etc. The only people who matter to them are the Laputans. This is who we have become, and we cannot blame the Muslims for it: We have lost contact with reality, and live in a world of our own.

God will bring us back down to earth suddenly and very uncomfortably, if I understand the Bible correctly. What concerns me in all this is not the Muslims, not Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump, but God's people. Those who hate God will suffer for it; my concern is for those who love God, that they don't get enticed to follow the others.

2. Concerning Donald Trump.

I have just condemned most of mankind as being either great fools (the Wise men of the West) or ignorant (many of the rest). By this yardstick, Donald Trump doesn't look too bad. He's certainly more down-to-earth than his Democrat rival. I love his frankness and openness, and will likely vote for him. Beyond that, I'm not very invested emotionally in the coming election.

3. Concerning Regional/ National Origin.

Most Americans come from a background of modified feudalism:

" Feudalism was similar to a contract in which individuals pledged their loyalty and services to a lord or person of higher rank. The loyalty was rewarded with the promise of protection and the chance to occupy land."

-- http://www.skwirk.com/p-c_s-14_u-176_t-477_c-1744/feudalism-the-societal-hierachy/nsw/feudalism-the-societal-hierachy/medieval-and-early-modern-societies-europe/the-structure-of-medieval-european-society

Some people think America has "evolved" away from feudalism, to the "new" idea of democracy; but in fact, we are a class society just like the "days of oulde, when knights were boulde". The highest-ranking kings and nobles are people like Janet Yellen, Bill Gates and George Soros; and the pecking order descends from there. We cite the New Testament, as our justification for living this way; and because we are willing to so submit, we have a relatively peaceful, orderly society.

The Muslims do not accept the New Testament. Their model is Muhammed and his followers, who forced Sharia Law upon people through violence. Because of this background of theirs, they DO NOT FIT IN to Western society. If our Laputan leaders would ever look down to earth long enough, they would see and understand it. Most Americans understand this intuitively, as does Donald Trump.

Shalom shalom :-)


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