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Amin, I guess I can claim VICTORY using your own term that is.

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Submitted by Peter Hall (Australia), Dec 26, 2011 at 02:44

I guess your taqiyya is slipping, but I am glad you agree I am correct, and that you are wrong. Firstly ********************************************************************************************************************

You say Most Muslims do not know Arabic. But they do not memorise it en masse either. Why would I not like that? Muslims come from many different cultures, races and languages. But many still attempt to learn the classical *********************************************************************************************************************

Now you originally said that Islam would spread Classical Arabic, I am glad you now see that you are wrong and most Muslims only know Classical Arabic on a superficial level and I was correct, Peter correct - Amin wrong. You asked how many books I have read about Arabic, NONE, I have not read about stone knapping either, but I am sure I have read many more books than you as I understand the uses of punctuation. What is the reason for asking about 10 books? What is the relevance? Or is this a taqiyya to deflect from the issue, or are you just masturbating in public again?? Peter correct - Amin look pathetic. You said in response to my comment *********************************************************************************************************************

It is a legitimate areas of study, the same as Arabic is. But that does not mean it is a strong language when it has so many flaws. Language is a tool, not Arabic when anybody looks at how it copes in the modern world can see it does not cope well.The world is not astounded by Arabic Literature, only a few western Scholars and a few Educated Arabs bother to read it, That is a fact. Otherwise show me the number of editions of Arabic literature sold each year that proves me wrong!! Again you have no evidence for this at all...no figures - you have NOT even read one book about Arabic or Arabic literature. So how is that you have formed these views? there is a Word beyond USA, EUROPE and West..... Arabic literature is read .... in India, China, Russia, Asia and Africa. How about a few writers..... whose works have been translated into several languages. Anis Mansoor, Mahmood Darwish, Izz ad Din Madani, Zakariya Tamir, Muhammad al-Zafzaf, Ibrahim al-Faqih, Najib Mahfouz, Hanan al-shaykh, Muhammad Shukri, Idwar al-Kharrat, Salwa Bakr, Yusuf Idris, Layla al-Uthman, al-Takrali...... and etc. **********************************************************************************************************************

STOP THE TAQIYYA ! I asked you to prove you statement about all of Europe reading classical Arabic, you go off on another subject and are hiding from your lie. Either provide proof of your claim or admit you made it up ! Either put up or shut up, Give some facts Amin, I am getting sick of your Taqiyya, I ask a very specific question and you hide because you know I am correct and I caught you out lying. Well Amin, I have provided my proof, and you know I have, do I have to tell you again or is this more taqiyya??? Yet I asked you for figures? What are the print runs? Where is your evidence of all Europe having read Classical Arabic, name a book, how many sold etc? I have provided proof and evidence, but you have supplied none, You are HIDING Amin, why not provide some evidence of these unknown authors? You are critical of Wikipedia, CIA factbooks, Nationbuilder, and numerous other sites I have provide links for you, they are my evidence, where is yours? You may not like my evidence, but you are either a lair or a fool for saying I have provided no evidence. The only one here who has provided no evidence is you!! Giving a few names is not evidence, or even Wikipedia is not evidence according you your high standards Amin, but is that the standard you hold for only other people and not yourself? Is that not arrogant and dishonest when you say others have no evidence when they have, and you not providing any to support your position? Peter correct - Amin looking like a dishonest fool You said ********************************************************************************************************************

YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT AN ADJECTIVE IS IN ENGLISH - so how do you know if Arabic is flawed..... which linguist says so? You have trouble understanding how academia works. *********************************************************************************************************************

You are like a dog with a dead bird Amin, please stop showing your ignorance, or are you going to get all excited over personal insults? BTW your comment should read, You do not even understand the application of adjectives in the English language ! Your poor English showing again, the poor punctuation is definitely a give away. You comment Actually my command (of English) is far far superior than yours..... it is not the typos that show(demonstrate) that..(;).. its grammar (your grammatical) mistakes.... and ESPECIALLY NOT KNOWING WHAT(understanding) AN(the use of an) ADJECTIVE IS.( ! ) AND THEN THE LIE OVER THE WORD "LAZER". Again, the Indian gentleman who works at our local 7/11 thinks his English is great too !! I put the corrections is brackets so you can see how silly your criticism looks. So, someone who is educated in English would say; My command of English is fare superior to yours. It is not your typos that demonstrate this observation, but your grammatical mistakes, and especially not understanding the application of adjectives ! So not only choosing the right words is important, but the ,.?"'! are all there for a reason, they are not only for filler. Its called punctuation. My excuse for a lot of my posts was using a smartphone to comment, have you ever tried using spell checker or even revising using a smartphone Amin? See how someone who understands English would write Amin? See now why I have been laughing? Now if you are going to try and act all superior, at least do so in a way that does not make you look like a fool. I am cognitive people here make typos, or do not speak English as a first language, but arrogant fools like you really need a reality check, and having to read you atrocious English, then claim superiority made me sick. Peter Correct - Amin looking ignorant. Again Amin, you said *******************************************************************************************************************

No one has left a single comment in you defense.... so what support have you got? *******************************************************************************************************************

I do recall Dhimmi taking you to task over the word microchip, do you not recall? Peter Correct - Amin wrong again Also I guess most People agree with me, so I do not need their help, they agree, I see you have Slayhy in your corner, I will throw him a bone and say he is loyal and dogged, but like you not correct. You make not like my evidence Amin, but your double standards you apply, one rule for Amin, one for others, shows you are a man of straw.

The reason why so many Westerners work in the Middle East and the Arabia, is that there are no local Arabs who are educated enough or resourceful enough to run the oil Industry there, they rely on educated westerners. The Arabs of the UAE and Saudi Arabia are too uneducated to run the high tech side of things and all their shinney new building are all designed and engineered by non Arabs. Even the labour is from other countries. The oil that pays for it is extracted by non Arabs, and they only reason the Arabs can pay for their shinney new trinkets is that they sit on land that happens to have oil under it, otherwise they would still be sitting in mud huts and picking flees from their camels. Soon as the oil runs out they will be doing the same again.

Did you know the Indians in America sold the island of Manhattan for a few shiny trinkets and a few axes? The trinkets are now gone, but Manhattan was a great buy. The Arabs are selling their ONLY asset, oil, not for beads, but a few Ferraris and gold watches, and not axes, but US n Russian Guns. In 200 years, the Ferraris and the Russian tanks will be gone with the oil and the Arabs will be back in mud huts. All the billions wasted by Arabs, on shiny things, do you really think anybody would voluntarily want to live in Arabia? So once the oil runs out who is going to use the big hotels and shopping centres? Who is going to clean the Arabs toilets when they have no money. They have not invested in useful things, they have spent and spent of rubbish, and that is why Arabic is stagnated, the laziness of the Arabs.

LOOK AT THE LIST OF THE TOP SELLING BOOKS OF ALL TIME, (well since 1998) http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/01/top-100-books-of-all-time Are any Arabic authors listed? NO So in the last 13 years, what was the top selling Arabic book and how many copies were sold? Tell me Amin, this is ASKING YOU FOR SIMPLE EVIDENCE ! Your response will show who is correct, if you can find a source that shows large numbers of Arabic books by Arabic authors, maybe you can prove you argument. However, if you cannot supply confirmation of these large book sales of an Arab book, by an Arab author, then I am correct and you are wrong. So I throw this challenge to you Amin, either put up, or shut up. Peter correct - Amin under pressure Peter Correct - Amin hiding with no evidence

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