24 readers online now  |  69 million page views

Lost tablighees

Reader comment on item: Arabist Snobs
in response to reader comment: ...Amin strikes again, and again

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 1, 2012 at 10:57

Hi Peter

At last I had the chance to read your great exchange with Mr Riaz and you did well

She first asked what country you come from and how long you have been learning English. I told her you claim to be born in the UK. After looking at your poor English, and your inability to understand a basic mathematical formula, ...

This very well explain what Mr Riaz is all about. He told me, in my little chats with him about the book of Allah, not once but several times that he has earned not one but three degrees in what he called "ancient" Arabic. But you know what? there is no such thing as "ancient" Arabic. And to add insult to injury his command of spoken and wrtten Arabic is really big zero. But his tablighee twists and truns have no end. Just check my little chat with him about the Arabic words Wasl/Isal and Istilam and I feel sorry for him but I have no mercy for those that post Islamic BS

What was most bizarre is that he has no clue about how to use the dictionaries of the Semitic languages or why one must read the literary sources in their primary languages. I know my Arabic very well as well as Syriac as well as Greek and I know my historical method very well but this does not stop him from making a fool of himself. And it is as clear as it can be that he does not know real spoken Arabic or Syriac but that does not stop him from making a fool of himself. Very Islamic indeed

I suspect that he is of Indian origin and he lives in England. And that is OK. I also believe that he never earned a degree in the Arabic language. He is more likely than not what Indian Muslims call a hafiz or he who memorizes the Qur'an. Now imagine yourself memorizing a book written in a foreign language that you cannot read speak or even write! I call this a tragedy and a waste of brain power.

The funny thing is Muslim Arabs call his likes a Fiqi and a fiqi is the lowest cleric on the totem pole of Islamic clerics among the Arabs. However, in the bizarre world of Indian islam a Fiqi is very revered. My only explanation is that in Hinduism Barhmans also memorize their holy books which means, as I have told him, that you can take the boy out of Hinduism but you cannot take Hinduism out of the boy

But again Islam is ridiculous! what can I tell you


Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

Submitting....

Reader comments (224) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
Why impose modesty [142 words]Mounir el AbdMar 4, 2012 08:37193880
What's an Arabist to do? [190 words]jclDec 2, 2011 01:11191384
5Arabic as vehicle of fascism [106 words]L. ManoharNov 30, 2011 05:34191324
Arabic as a second Language will be first in the future [404 words]slayhyNov 29, 2011 05:15191288
2Islam means "peace" vs Islam means submission" [81 words]Wolf LorberNov 28, 2011 02:11191245
Tongue Twister [85 words]Pied PiperNov 30, 2011 19:36191245
8Taa marbouta and holy war and other matters [873 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2011 09:53191215
sharing knowledge [81 words]steve omaraNov 29, 2011 12:01191215
7Arabian imperialism [486 words]dhimmi no moreNov 30, 2011 10:32191215
Dhimmi [13 words]steve omaraNov 30, 2011 22:44191215
Obtaining a copy of the book [36 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John G Spethman MDNov 26, 2011 16:54191193
The Military Roots of Islam [44 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John G Spethman MDNov 27, 2011 00:52191193
NOT A BOOK [191 words]Pied PiperDec 2, 2011 10:26191193
Thank you [5 words]John G. SpethmanDec 2, 2011 19:33191193
built in Islamic obsolescence, I hope. [40 words]steve omaraNov 25, 2011 12:40191172
7"understand Islam before you can criticize it" [236 words]JoshNov 25, 2011 02:08191164
1Multilingual does not mean knowledgeable or wise [92 words]DonnTNov 24, 2011 22:28191163
Dot Your Qafs and Cross Your Kafs [339 words]Pied PiperNov 27, 2011 15:18191163
6they dont get the culture so they pick on language [252 words]sgan leviNov 24, 2011 16:48191161
Well Said [80 words]Kepha HorNov 25, 2011 18:21191161
SAMPLE OF THAT [227 words]G. CouvertNov 23, 2011 18:01191142
War and Peace [338 words]Pied PiperNov 30, 2011 14:06191142
they are more than billion ! [67 words]G. CouvertNov 30, 2011 18:28191142
3Doctors over Snobs [56 words]Jay1Nov 23, 2011 16:55191139
Anthony Sullivan article [95 words]WallyNov 23, 2011 13:59191136
1"Arabists" have a point... but their position is intended to stultify, not enhance, scholarship [132 words]Alex SchindlerNov 23, 2011 12:22191133
The true meaning of words [53 words]Jules PostenNov 23, 2011 09:32191130
1re arabist snobs sometimes a cover for darker passions [136 words]larry franklinNov 22, 2011 21:39191121
Jihad (your definition) [62 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Wolf LorberNov 22, 2011 20:45191117
2The offense of stating the obvious! [169 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 21:32191117
What is Jihad [553 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 12:42191117
The issue is Palestine [308 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 13:13191117
6slayhy: All you are saying is that the 'lesser' jihad is meant to conquer and terrify non-Muslims [682 words]PlatoDec 17, 2011 09:49191117
Salam [15 words]MuhammedJan 9, 2012 16:16191117
What's wrong with serious study of hard languages? [41 words]Kepha HorNov 22, 2011 19:38191114
lies [86 words]steve omaraNov 27, 2011 13:11191114
1But... [75 words]Kepha HorNov 30, 2011 17:28191114
kepha [95 words]steve omaraDec 1, 2011 23:10191114
1A question of prejudice [41 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 04:52191114
3Do you understand what baseless means? [196 words]Peter HallDec 2, 2011 19:28191114
1Amin Riaz........compulsively, regularly, Islamically,.... [67 words]stevev omaraDec 3, 2011 01:00191114
thanks for your attention [170 words]Kepha HorDec 3, 2011 15:38191114
Evidence against the accused? [80 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 20:38191114
1One question that you fal to answer [111 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 20:44191114
Another Victory - I am that Good! [100 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 21:55191114
Kepha [65 words]stevev omaraDec 3, 2011 23:20191114
1amin riaz [83 words]steve omaraDec 5, 2011 14:23191114
6Winston Churchill Illustrates The Point [71 words]DaveNov 22, 2011 19:07191113
Churchill was correct [27 words]Joe Six-PackNov 25, 2011 15:15191113
2Iranian S.S. [70 words]steve omaraNov 27, 2011 14:23191113
2Islam Islam, I wish people new what Islam [55 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 10:03191113
beards [56 words]steve omaraDec 1, 2011 22:55191113
A bearded man or woman [60 words]slayhyDec 3, 2011 11:54191113
2The Ta Marbuta and Her Sisters [480 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Pied PiperNov 22, 2011 17:59191112
2ISLAM and SALAM are linked [921 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 01:40191112
6Deobandi tablighee bogus Arabic read and laugh [265 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2011 10:10191112
5The saga of teh/taa/ta marbouta [181 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2011 10:25191112
5Cherry picking time and islamic delusions [696 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2011 14:17191112
1Another comprehensive proof ... [386 words]Amin RiazNov 27, 2011 22:41191112
Another embarassment ... [407 words]Amin RiazNov 27, 2011 23:02191112
Slight correction [9 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2011 07:11191112
1Bitter Cherries! Lying for the West [1166 words]Amin RiazNov 28, 2011 19:13191112
6Arabian imperialism and its victims [333 words]dhimmi no moreNov 30, 2011 10:53191112
1Islam in Arabic language [310 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 11:06191112
3Our dear Amin ... cannot even read a simple Arabic text and what a disaster [790 words]dhimmi no moreDec 1, 2011 07:44191112
4Islamic delusions [141 words]dhimmi no moreDec 1, 2011 08:03191112
5I am a Big Fan Dhimmi No More But I Have a Question [179 words]BB KingDec 2, 2011 00:29191112
1Meaning of Deciet [84 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 02:07191112
Face Saving Exercise [208 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 02:14191112
Best stick to petty personal insults.... [604 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 03:36191112
2The Arabic word for receipt is wasl [93 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2011 06:19191112
3Islam and its victims [572 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2011 07:03191112
2Our dear Amin needs to stick to Urdu [266 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2011 08:18191112
Fictional Support. [95 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 20:30191112
Charades of Dhimmi [266 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 20:32191112
3Our dear Amin needs to stick to Urdu part deux [282 words]dhimmi no moreDec 4, 2011 10:33191112
1Pg 99 of Al Mawrid and Pg426 of Hans Wehr? [205 words]Amin RiazDec 5, 2011 09:58191112
6The word laser in Arabic ... is al-lazer [337 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2011 06:59191112
5Our dear Amin does not seem to know that the Arabic word for microchip is microshib and why is that? any guesses? [284 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2011 07:18191112
4More islamic comedy and you need to stick to urdu our dear Amin [248 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2011 07:53191112
8Quranic disasters and the words of the basmala are loan words from Syriac [562 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2011 09:06191112
4The Arabic word for microchip is microshib [46 words]dhimmi no moreDec 14, 2011 07:46191112
Dhimmi - you make me look Good! [224 words]Amin RiazDec 14, 2011 15:04191112
Atonement [317 words]Amin RiazDec 14, 2011 15:31191112
same old tactics [344 words]Amin RiazDec 14, 2011 15:48191112
What next ... [483 words]Amin RiazDec 15, 2011 08:52191112
3More islamic comedy [88 words]dhimmi no moreDec 16, 2011 07:56191112
3Plagiarism [38 words]dhimmi no moreDec 16, 2011 07:58191112
2Islam and its victims [25 words]dhimmi no moreDec 16, 2011 09:53191112
Another easy victory over Dhimmi [161 words]Amin RiazDec 16, 2011 17:56191112
More easy to prove ... from Dhimmi [293 words]Amin RiazDec 16, 2011 18:32191112
2Deconstructing Fiction [1012 words]Amin RiazJan 2, 2012 19:47191112
3Mullah was arrested for molesting a Muslim boy and Muslim hypocrisy [334 words]dhimmi no moreJan 7, 2012 08:37191112
Exposing..... [104 words]Amin RiazJan 7, 2012 21:32191112
3Mullah was arrested for molesting a Muslim boy and Muslim hypocrisy part two [84 words]dhimmi no moreJan 9, 2012 07:27191112
Multiple meanings of S-L-M [45 words]DavidAug 13, 2014 13:02191112
Islam and Peace [197 words]Amin RiazAug 15, 2014 06:37191112
1The term Deen al-Islam [319 words]dhimmi no moreAug 15, 2014 17:33191112
1The only thing that Islam has in common with the word salam or peace is that they share the same root [510 words]dhimmi no moreAug 18, 2014 08:21191112
2This is what al-Tabari tells us about the meaning of the word Deen and Islam [285 words]dhimmi no moreAug 18, 2014 09:00191112
I am laughing all the way! [438 words]Amin RiazAug 20, 2014 08:51191112
1Limits of language proficiency [19 words]Joel ScottNov 22, 2011 15:35191111
4truth hurts [155 words]steve omaraNov 22, 2011 14:00191105
3Sun Tzu [70 words]Pied PiperNov 23, 2011 19:35191105
1I agree [139 words]Kepha HorNov 23, 2011 22:47191105
2sun tzu [119 words]steve omaraNov 23, 2011 23:04191105
16My poor and humble opinion. [540 words]Peter HallNov 24, 2011 01:03191105
1off on a tangent [94 words]steve omaraNov 25, 2011 12:13191105
1Price of hatred. [150 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 02:27191105
1... Generic, Unoriginal & Prejudiced [1307 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 21:11191105
2Arabs in wonderland [135 words]steve omaraNov 26, 2011 23:47191105
Deir Yassin so called Massacre [251 words]saraNov 27, 2011 18:16191105
If it wasn't for the protection of USA ..... [167 words]Amin RiazNov 28, 2011 16:27191105
9Your are proof of the Title of this article, Arabist Snobs [1642 words]Peter HallNov 29, 2011 00:33191105
12The Champion of the 2 great Muslim Truths. [468 words]Peter HallNov 29, 2011 07:54191105
3If only... [44 words]steve omaraNov 29, 2011 12:33191105
The White House is White! [2570 words]Amin RiazNov 29, 2011 22:25191105
Seeing pigs fly... [8 words]Amin RiazNov 30, 2011 02:48191105
End is near - [61 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 09:59191105
anti semitism [104 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 10:11191105
Golda Meyerson [22 words]steve omaraNov 30, 2011 22:54191105
Arabic [57 words]steve omaraNov 30, 2011 23:13191105
5Get with the program Amin, the White House is actually white !!! [1956 words]Peter HallDec 1, 2011 21:46191105
2Did your un named astrologer tell you this? [20 words]Peter HallDec 1, 2011 22:25191105
Denying History? [12 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 02:00191105
No room for materialistic in heavens [7 words]slayhyDec 2, 2011 03:04191105
The real problem [100 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 03:42191105
4Do you know any Arabic at all? or are you just making things up? [325 words]Peter HallDec 2, 2011 22:17191105
Slahy's shiny things [22 words]steve omaraDec 3, 2011 01:09191105
shiny things [10 words]herbert ironstaffeDec 3, 2011 03:32191105
More ignorant nothingness... [2522 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 05:11191105
Looney or not Looney that is the question [35 words]slayhyDec 3, 2011 11:50191105
1Please not more Dhimmi like tactics.... [500 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 21:50191105
amin [56 words]stevev omaraDec 3, 2011 23:36191105
True Muslims ar not impressed with worldly materialistic, shiny [30 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 04:58191105
Arabic a sophisticated language [377 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 07:14191105
Arabic a superior language than english [41 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 07:23191105
5You proved my point [483 words]Peter HallDec 4, 2011 20:49191105
2LOL, You are a comedian Slayhy [19 words]Peter HallDec 4, 2011 20:58191105
Another Dhimmi? [902 words]Amin RiazDec 5, 2011 09:38191105
3Ah, Amin, you poor simplistic fool [756 words]Peter HallDec 5, 2011 20:49191105
....eh! [677 words]Amin RiazDec 6, 2011 22:31191105
3Your are in Denial Amin [568 words]Peter HallDec 7, 2011 20:17191105
Ignorance upon Ignorance [811 words]Amin RiazDec 9, 2011 02:46191105
no comment [29 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 04:52191105
Laser abbreviation in Arabic [53 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 05:10191105
some of shari'a Laws in Islam 9Commandments) [316 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 05:13191105
3They all seem very nice [153 words]Peter HallDec 9, 2011 18:56191105
3Taqiyya again? [209 words]Peter HallDec 11, 2011 18:45191105
LOL [31 words]Peter HallDec 11, 2011 18:51191105
comparison is fruitless [468 words]slayhyDec 12, 2011 05:03191105
2You are either clueless or do not know Islam [304 words]Peter HallDec 12, 2011 23:37191105
Winning hands down...I am that good [456 words]Amin RiazDec 13, 2011 02:28191105
Ka'baa [88 words]slayhyDec 14, 2011 01:46191105
3So the Kabaa is a pagan temple! [243 words]Peter HallDec 14, 2011 18:45191105
1Jews stabbed Mohammad in the back and ..... [49 words]PrashantDec 15, 2011 13:24191105
4The master of Taqiyya strikes again [455 words]Peter HallDec 18, 2011 23:39191105
A list of Lies [1203 words]Amin RiazDec 20, 2011 18:30191105
5there you go again ... trying to hide the facts [370 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 02:34191105
5read your own comments [166 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 02:44191105
Better had stick to petty insults... [1106 words]Amin RiazDec 21, 2011 19:52191105
Defining Victory [230 words]Amin RiazDec 21, 2011 20:07191105
2Amin, you keep proving my point [418 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 20:26191105
4Its a shame you have no understanding of History [827 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 21:12191105
Do Palaeontologists think Dinosaurs backwards? [1036 words]Amin RiazDec 22, 2011 18:19191105
6Such Myopic responses to hide the truth [865 words]Peter HallDec 22, 2011 18:29191105
More lies... [352 words]Amin RiazDec 22, 2011 20:03191105
4Again you contradict yourself [1419 words]Peter HallDec 22, 2011 20:28191105
response [1743 words]Amin RiazDec 24, 2011 20:05191105
5Amin, you are truly a master of Taqiyya [1993 words]Peter HallDec 24, 2011 21:48191105
Peter Hall is beaten [86 words]slayhyDec 25, 2011 02:57191105
I am OPENLY LAUGHING ... [2454 words]Amin RiazDec 25, 2011 19:50191105
3Amin, I guess I can claim VICTORY using your own term that is. [1574 words]Peter HallDec 26, 2011 02:44191105
2still no answer? [531 words]Peter HallDec 26, 2011 18:52191105
A quick summary [231 words]Amin RiazDec 26, 2011 20:17191105
1More lies...as per usual [3088 words]Amin RiazDec 26, 2011 22:40191105
2still no answer. [487 words]Peter HallDec 27, 2011 20:07191105
Ignorance upon Ignorance [99 words]Amin RiazDec 28, 2011 17:57191105
Meaning of Foolishness. [312 words]Amin RiazDec 28, 2011 19:30191105
3Still full of hot air [401 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:03191105
2I asked for facts Amin [17 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:06191105
2I asked for facts Amin [303 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:24191105
Whinning for West [242 words]Amin RiazDec 29, 2011 18:30191105
Definition of a Fact [47 words]Amin RiazDec 29, 2011 18:34191105
2More hot Air Amin [139 words]Peter HallDec 29, 2011 22:14191105
More ... [381 words]Amin RiazDec 30, 2011 18:47191105
3Whinning? More Taqiyya? [1056 words]Peter HallDec 31, 2011 19:13191105
2Now you really are showing your desperation. [267 words]Peter HallJan 1, 2012 20:08191105
I have GOT to you! Gotcha [2194 words]Amin RiazJan 1, 2012 20:47191105
A Guide to Fiction (Gotcha!) [327 words]Amin RiazJan 2, 2012 18:12191105
4Frankly Amin, you would not know what evidence is if it slapped you in the face [1186 words]Peter HallJan 2, 2012 19:45191105
2... English vs. Arabic [265 words]Peter HallJan 2, 2012 20:01191105
Conveniently forgetting.... [210 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 17:37191105
3Thank you [207 words]Peter HallJan 3, 2012 18:20191105
More Fiction (Doctoring Figures) [836 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 20:14191105
You doctor the figures.... [132 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 20:22191105
3Clearly you have trouble with reading [221 words]Peter HallJan 4, 2012 18:05191105
3Taqiyya Amin Strikes again [1380 words]Peter HallJan 4, 2012 19:45191105
Beginning of the End [474 words]Amin RiazJan 5, 2012 19:54191105
Nasty and Personal... why? [804 words]Amin RiazJan 5, 2012 20:44191105
2Taqiyya Amin strikes again, and again [162 words]Peter HallJan 5, 2012 23:33191105
2Taqiyya Amin strikes again, and again, and again [745 words]Peter HallJan 6, 2012 00:17191105
2Peter Hall You Could've Ended This Debate a Long TIme Ago With a Clear KO of Amin [257 words]BB KingJan 6, 2012 00:24191105
3Taqiyya Amin, on the floor, sobbing. [547 words]Peter HallJan 6, 2012 18:58191105
Calling Bluffs [486 words]Amin RiazJan 6, 2012 22:55191105
More time waste ... [242 words]Amin RiazJan 7, 2012 20:55191105
2... AMIN STRIKES AGAIN. His bluff called again and found wanting. [2015 words]Peter HallJan 8, 2012 01:23191105
A strange Invention [814 words]Amin RiazJan 10, 2012 22:30191105
1...Amin proves how the simple eludes him [793 words]Peter HallJan 11, 2012 18:20191105
Exposing FICTION. [164 words]Amin RiazJan 11, 2012 19:45191105
1What a simpleton ! [552 words]Peter HallJan 12, 2012 17:29191105
... PETER HALL [438 words]Amin RiazFeb 3, 2012 00:05191105
1...Amin strikes again, and again [486 words]Peter HallFeb 4, 2012 21:48191105
Admittance from Peter Hall - He made it up! [232 words]Amin RiazFeb 5, 2012 20:42191105
3Well ... Amin [309 words]Peter HallFeb 12, 2012 20:12191105
Bogus Formulas [28 words]Amin RiazFeb 13, 2012 19:09191105
2Before you ask again [128 words]Peter HallFeb 13, 2012 19:37191105
2I guess you can [24 words]Peter HallFeb 14, 2012 23:17191105
1Inventive Fabrications [55 words]Amin RiazMar 24, 2012 10:46191105
2I repeat my answer [72 words]Peter HallMar 25, 2012 03:59191105
1Bogus Arabic by wannabe Arabs and this time it is our dear slayhy [180 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2012 12:00191105
Lost tablighees [443 words]dhimmi no moreDec 1, 2012 10:57191105
5Narcissism in the Ivory Tower [31 words]Charlie WeaverNov 22, 2011 10:53191103
2Arabist nonsense [59 words]Allan EricksonNov 22, 2011 09:37191102

Comment on this item

Name
Email Address (optional)
Title of Comments
Comments:

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

ADVERTISEMENTS

eXTReMe Tracker

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials written by Daniel Pipes on this site © 1968-2014 Daniel Pipes. Email: daniel.pipes@gmail.com

You can help support Daniel Pipes' work by making a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum. Daniel J. Pipes