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Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Dec 3, 2011 at 05:11

"I think my facts and figures do not need an expert to conclude that Arabic is a weak language."

This says it all. That there is NO expert backing you up... and you by your own admission are not an expert. So making my conclusion...correct - that you views are baseless, ignorant and rather pathetic.

.... you still fail to answer why and how is Arabic a weak language.

Rather you aim the gun at current situation of Arabia. Which dire though it is, no argument there - is getting better. More political change bids well.

The level of Literacy is due to to corruption and political situation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa#Literacy_rates

Using a completely separate argument to conclude a different argument is illogical:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Else you would be able to find clear cut examples of why Arabic is weak language... work of grammarians, historians, linguists, social commentators, journalists and etc. Yet you have been unable to do that.

It has been more of the same.

"no one wants to read Arabic literature, not even Arabs"

More of your prejudices. Without a single shred of evidence. Yet virtually all major Western universities study it.

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You make again many personal attacks of me, and then you get upset when I return the favour. However I will summarise what I said and the sources I use.

One such personal attack? Give me an example.... And where did I get upset? I encourage you to keep to insults.

My original comment was that Arabic is a backward language that has not developed at the rate that other languages has due to the lack of demand placed upon it by the speakers of Arabic. The reason I surmise this is that lack of education amongst Arabic speakers, the lack of scientific progress of Arabic peoples, and the dumbing down of the Arabic speaking peoples and the predominant reason is Islam.

There we have it.... Arabic and the state of Arab world are 2 different things. Your argument is illogical and hence ignorant. It is based on your prejudices and hatred.

You respond with personal attacks, and cite how wonderful and sophisticated Arabic literature is, how sophisticated it is and how well educated the Arabic world is.

A blatant falsehood - where did I say how educated the Arab world is and find me 1 example of personal insult against you. Arabic is a highly sophisticated language. According to most linguists that have studied the language.

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Now again you show you are trying to deflect my argument not refute. I did not make up the figure of 20 books it was from the article I used as a source material. If you had read the article you would of seen this not of my making. This article provides specific figures, the way to refute this is for you to provide alternative figures from someone you claim is a more reputable source. You are reverting to the flint knapping again. You ask my source when you are questioning my source? Now do I really need to explain the source I quote is my source?

Again no reasoning - simply drivel and babbling BS. If your number 20 is from the above then prove it by doing math and showing exactly how.

Now you firstly ask where is my source, I provided my source, you have not provide any source to prove me or my source wrong, therefore by extension you are the one with a baseless argument, not me, I have provided my sources, where is yours?

Let me get this clear .... you present one book buyers/seller - that actually goes against you. And claim to reject Arabic by it.

Where exactly did that source show - that Arabic is weak unsophisticated language?

I have not found you SOURCES - care to repeat. Else you are OUTRIGHT lying.

Well to be honest, he is not a poet of great world importance, maybe to Pakistanis he is great, but his work does not seem to have been reprinted nor translated into many languages and Pakistanis are fairly illiterate. I think he didn't get a Nobel Prize because he was not good enough, innovative enough or creative enough, does that answer your question?

Again you do not even know of this poet you you have an opinion .... purely out of ignorance. "does not seem to"... no that does not answer my question as it is based your prejudices. Again baseless.

I am primarily concerned with the sciences. The Nobel Peace prize and the Arts award are very Political, how else can you explain Arafat getting one? Yet out of the 1000s awarded for the sciences why so few Arabic speakers are even considered? It is because there is no significant contribution.

Again - you fail to notice and make the distinction that Arabic and state of Arabia are 2 totally different propositions.

Again you fail to back up your ignorant view with any work of Academia/scholarship/expertview/stat and etc.

No evidence.

Well Amin, you keep asking for my sources, but then you make claims without quoting yours? Do you know there is a word for that it is called hypocrisy.

Onus is on the person making claims to back them up.... it is your view that Arabic is a weak language... so where is the evidence from linguist, historians, expert is Arabic Arabs or Middle East?

Else they are your baseless view....

If you need a source for anything I have said ask for it. Exactly what do you need ... If i don't give it... then you have a point.

Else making general accusation ..... that is meaningless.

Please name the Arab classic you claim all of Europe has read and your source?

Few examples:

Numerous works of Ibn Rush - he was monumental figure to commentate on Aristotle and spread his Philosophy - to West and Judaism.

Ibn Sina:

Canon of Medicine

Wiki provides extensive list of references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna#References

Ibn Khaldun

Muqqadimah - Again Bernard Lewis is a good authority.

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"Firstly, you act like a pompous xxx and correct my "cite", was that a OBVIOLY error? Hypocrite! You call my English patchy??? So you are a do as I say type of person not do as I do?"

Self explanatory - need I say more?

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LOL, so you agree there are lots of sources, many not very credible, saying that 20% of the Qu'ran does not make sense even when read in Arabic. Now I ask you, where are the sources that are credible showing they are wrong? Where is your proof that 100% of the Quran is a marvel?

Obviously .... and even you know answering Islam. But not many Academic hold that view. Which actually goes in the favour of Quran.

Sibway - Al Kitab, Ibn Hisham - Mughni, Ibn Qahir Jurjani, Ibn Hajib, Suyuti, Abu Hanifa .... and etc.

Also Western Wanborough, Schimmel, A Lockett, W Fischer, i gave you a better list previously.

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I think I have shown that you are an Arabist snob, who has acted all pompous towards me, a person who does not claim expertise in Arabic. Yet I have proven that Arabic is the language of the illiterate, the uneducated and the uncultured. How can you explain why Spain has translated more books into Spanish each year, than into Arabic for the last 1000 years. Why do the French, with a significant population of Muslims and Arabic speakers translate so few books each year into French(estimated to be 20 books)?

Yet you claimed the most ignorant and pathetic .

Even now word like "I think"

Where have you proven that Arabic is weak - by which authority? Name me one? Just by repeating a false claim over and over does not make it so.

Take Dr Pipes and Robert Spencer ... neither has EVER written along the lines of Arabic being weak.

So who has ...? Else it is simply your prejudice.

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The reason why is that due to these demands, English can do the most in conveying ideas and concepts. The vast bulk of all scientific papers and journals have been written in the last 25 years. The sum total of human knowledge that is really a result of Arabic speakers is very very small. Most scientific papers are written in English, virtually none in Arabic for the very reason I state in that Arabic has not had demands placed upon it.

Again conjecture .... and unrelated.... to your ignorant view that Arabic is a weak language. Second - you failed to answer why is it that English borrows virtually all scientific terms from Latin or Greek. Where as Arabic tends to use its own history and lexicons.

The question you fail to qualify is so called weakness of Arabic. This sure doesn't answer it.

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Every language compare badly to English when it comes to second language - yet Arabic is the only one that compares - given that Muslims from all over the world learn it.

Its writing script too is behind English too. English being the one used most often. Arabic next.

It is used as script is comparable to English as well. Languages such as Urdu, Punjabi, Persian, Balochi and etc use it.

So what are you going to say ... every other language beside English is weak?

Take India - where I come from - it is after China - will be the next economic, technological power. It will overtake USA in economic within 50 yrs. One reason India and USA have become increasingly closer... perhaps.

Yet look at its literacy rate - they are WORSE than most Arabs countries.

So how many evidences do you need commenting that Arabic even written is Art.

{Even though I am a designer of English Typography.... }

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Why are there so few world class Muslim/Arabic Universities? Why are so few scientific papers/journals written by Arabic speakers, why is illiteracy so high amongst Muslims/Arabic speakers?

Because default civilization currently is Western. Someday it wont be... I answered you this. Once Arabs had their Empire. Then it was the default Civ.... what goes around comes around.

China - used to be superpower once ..... hunderds of years ago. It is going ot be again.

Second - look at the Middle Eastern countries - most of them according to the wiki link YOU posted - rated pretty well....

70-89% range. That is not bad. Given how bad the situation was just 20yrs ago.

Second - number of World Class universities (the whole university - came from the Arabs - and including many of EVEN current practices - degrees, professorships and etc.) is increasing.... I gave you example of King Saud university before.. as an example.

Take UAE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_and_colleges_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates

It has brilliant institutes .... up and coming. Got plenty of money ....

Again all this has not got much to do with Arabic as a language.

You asked me .... about scientific words in Arabic - I gave you all of them - yet you got no answer for it.

http://www.sciencedev.net/Docs/science%20in%20arab%20countries.pdf

Again - Science and technology is on the rise. But what has THAT got to do with Arabic as a language.

Because according to you Arabic as a weak language cannot convey complex idea - yet you also claim not to know much about Arabia at all.

Other than few web searches.

Arab world OVIOUSLY lags behind the West in S&T - that is no even the argument - yet you are spending most time in that.

This simply doers not make Arabic a weak language at all. How else has it been coping with Science - yet it was Arabic that greatly influenced in converting an exporting knowledge to the West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_of_Arabic_on_other_languages

Maybe you missed the role of Social Media in Arab spring. A very current technological advancement.

http://menablog.worldbank.org/social-media-and-arab-spring-where-did-they-learn

You virtually laughed at me when I say the standards when it comes to Arabic are not that high, and you claim the best Muslim University is the King Saud University.

It is rated by Western ratings that - King Saud is the best Arab university. And where did I laugh at you at that? Quote me. I agree standards are not high. But they are increasingly getting better.

I will not use the various ratings by Westerners, I cite the Chinese study. The Western rating are not as flattering.

Hang on - so why it that you are not using Western Ratings - they are the ones that rate King Saud as the best Uni from Arab countries.

As I said, the bar is set VERY LOW, what is your source to refute me? Well Amin? Or are you going to say my claims are baseless using your baseless argument, argument?

Your claim that Arabic is a weak language remains AS BASELESS as ever. You are running away time and time again from answering the question.... you go off on a tangent. Status of Arab world and Arabic as a language are 2 different arguments.

To try and be fair, the Chinese do not rate you King Saud University too highly if this is the best, I rest my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Saud_University

But - the situation is a lot better and will get better. Even within 15yrs there is marked improvement. Now with better govt - standard surely will rise. Few more bad eggs to get rid of.

Yet this still does not answer question of Arabic? How is it a weak language. Evidence point to the contrary.

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Now I have proved that the Arabic of today is virtually the same Arabic of 1000 years ago, that this lack of sophistication is why there are virtually no scientific Arabic works for centuries, no one wants to read Arabic literature, not even Arabs. Compared to the rest of the world, Arabic speaking peoples do not value education, science or even reading.

Again you have not proved that - you have simply gone round the house how far behind Arab world is. And that is not the argument. Because I agree there. It obviously is.

But again you are misinformed and remain ignorant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic

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I have provided facts to back up all my claims, you however have provided a lot of hot air.

The whole argument was weakness of Arabic - yet you have not PROVIDED ONE shred of evidence.

Either back it up - with work of academics/scholars and etc. You have not brought up one name. Some of your own evidence goes against you.

Such as Literacy levels in Arab countries...

And try not to go off topic.

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Wikipedia, The UN, nationbuilder and the CIA world fact book are all reasonable sources of information, what are yours Amin?

When have you used UN as source? Second look at the question you were answering. Not one "source" points to answering how is Arabic a weak language.

Not one linguists name - yet I have given you have few choice names .....

Submitting....

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1Here's me making a fool of myself, now watch very carefully people [215 words]JamilMar 1, 2015 13:24191112
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And speaking of التكرار يعلم الحمار and here is another link to لسان العرب and the root س ل م and check Wortabet dictionary page 310 [936 words]dhimmi no moreMar 3, 2015 14:27191112
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1Another $25k challenge x2 and now dhimmi who is no more a dhimmi its time for you to stand up and back up your claim [172 words]JamilMar 6, 2015 18:50191112
Luxenberg, al buraq, egyptians, my hindu ancestors and dictionaries compiled by moslems! [496 words]JamilMar 6, 2015 18:50191112
1More ignorance [56 words]dhimmi no moreMar 7, 2015 08:21191112
2Our dear Jamil the Grand Poobah of all the grammarians! [532 words]dhimmi no moreMar 7, 2015 11:46191112
I shouldnt really be replying because this is just a waste of forum space and a waste of my time [864 words]JamilMar 7, 2015 20:34191112
1Our dear Amin Riaz says that there are indeed Buraqs! And they fly! [1071 words]dhimmi no moreMar 8, 2015 09:46191112
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2The Grand Poobah and our dear Amin and half knowledge and half truth and big time lies [551 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2015 15:28191112
3Exposing ignorance and you need to stick to Urdu our dear Amin! [374 words]dhimmi no moreMar 11, 2015 17:40191112
2And speaking of real Arabic/Arabic dictionaries and helping our dear Amin and his Grand Poobah [472 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2015 11:38191112
3Helping the poorly educated our dear Amin and googletranslate [358 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2015 12:21191112
3This is ignorance and poor education as it can get [521 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2015 07:46191112
1Tablighees and Ibn Warraq, Luxenberg and Wansbrough [172 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2015 09:40191112
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The long version [1575 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2015 10:10191112
Only read if you have time on your hand else this is another wasted space of forum and dont say I didnt warn you. [360 words]JamilMar 25, 2015 21:32191112
Hans Wehr the ARABIST, Amin, Something about Christmas. Another waste of forum space if you ask me. [270 words]JamilMar 25, 2015 21:34191112
Another $25k challenge and yes I am getting tired of offering this and why have you not won anything so far, could it be that you are a hater + a jaahil + an islamaphobe? [322 words]JamilMar 25, 2015 21:34191112
1An egyptian mufti, al ahmadiyya and more time wasting; how the moderators have allowed you to waste this much of forum space is shocking [154 words]JamilMar 25, 2015 21:35191112
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6The last one, different day same old, complete Islamaphobe, learnt nothing, rant over & what a waste of forum space again [2543 words]JamilMar 25, 2015 21:38191112
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3Our dear Jamil and googletranslate and poor education of tablighees and ahmadees [356 words]dhimmi no moreMar 28, 2015 11:04191112
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1Oh dear... a Lonely Kafir? [45 words]Amin RiadhApr 8, 2015 23:48191112
1Our dear Amin is running away again [327 words]dhimmi no moreApr 9, 2015 17:06191112
How about Ahmadophobia? [217 words]dhimmi no moreApr 11, 2015 08:18191112
1Limits of language proficiency [19 words]Joel ScottNov 22, 2011 15:35191111
4truth hurts [155 words]steve omaraNov 22, 2011 14:00191105
3Sun Tzu [70 words]Pied PiperNov 23, 2011 19:35191105
1I agree [139 words]Kepha HorNov 23, 2011 22:47191105
2sun tzu [119 words]steve omaraNov 23, 2011 23:04191105
16My poor and humble opinion. [540 words]Peter HallNov 24, 2011 01:03191105
1off on a tangent [94 words]steve omaraNov 25, 2011 12:13191105
1Price of hatred. [150 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 02:27191105
1... Generic, Unoriginal & Prejudiced [1307 words]Amin RiazNov 26, 2011 21:11191105
2Arabs in wonderland [135 words]steve omaraNov 26, 2011 23:47191105
Deir Yassin so called Massacre [251 words]saraNov 27, 2011 18:16191105
If it wasn't for the protection of USA ..... [167 words]Amin RiazNov 28, 2011 16:27191105
9Your are proof of the Title of this article, Arabist Snobs [1642 words]Peter HallNov 29, 2011 00:33191105
12The Champion of the 2 great Muslim Truths. [468 words]Peter HallNov 29, 2011 07:54191105
3If only... [44 words]steve omaraNov 29, 2011 12:33191105
The White House is White! [2570 words]Amin RiazNov 29, 2011 22:25191105
Seeing pigs fly... [8 words]Amin RiazNov 30, 2011 02:48191105
End is near - [61 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 09:59191105
anti semitism [104 words]slayhyNov 30, 2011 10:11191105
Golda Meyerson [22 words]steve omaraNov 30, 2011 22:54191105
Arabic [57 words]steve omaraNov 30, 2011 23:13191105
5Get with the program Amin, the White House is actually white !!! [1956 words]Peter HallDec 1, 2011 21:46191105
2Did your un named astrologer tell you this? [20 words]Peter HallDec 1, 2011 22:25191105
Denying History? [12 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 02:00191105
No room for materialistic in heavens [7 words]slayhyDec 2, 2011 03:04191105
The real problem [100 words]Amin RiazDec 2, 2011 03:42191105
4Do you know any Arabic at all? or are you just making things up? [325 words]Peter HallDec 2, 2011 22:17191105
Slahy's shiny things [22 words]steve omaraDec 3, 2011 01:09191105
shiny things [10 words]herbert ironstaffeDec 3, 2011 03:32191105
More ignorant nothingness... [2522 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 05:11191105
Looney or not Looney that is the question [35 words]slayhyDec 3, 2011 11:50191105
1Please not more Dhimmi like tactics.... [500 words]Amin RiazDec 3, 2011 21:50191105
amin [56 words]stevev omaraDec 3, 2011 23:36191105
True Muslims ar not impressed with worldly materialistic, shiny [30 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 04:58191105
Arabic a sophisticated language [377 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 07:14191105
Arabic a superior language than english [41 words]slayhyDec 4, 2011 07:23191105
7You proved my point [483 words]Peter HallDec 4, 2011 20:49191105
2LOL, You are a comedian Slayhy [19 words]Peter HallDec 4, 2011 20:58191105
Another Dhimmi? [902 words]Amin RiazDec 5, 2011 09:38191105
3Ah, Amin, you poor simplistic fool [756 words]Peter HallDec 5, 2011 20:49191105
....eh! [677 words]Amin RiazDec 6, 2011 22:31191105
3Your are in Denial Amin [568 words]Peter HallDec 7, 2011 20:17191105
Ignorance upon Ignorance [811 words]Amin RiazDec 9, 2011 02:46191105
no comment [29 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 04:52191105
Laser abbreviation in Arabic [53 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 05:10191105
some of shari'a Laws in Islam 9Commandments) [316 words]slayhyDec 9, 2011 05:13191105
3They all seem very nice [153 words]Peter HallDec 9, 2011 18:56191105
3Taqiyya again? [209 words]Peter HallDec 11, 2011 18:45191105
LOL [31 words]Peter HallDec 11, 2011 18:51191105
comparison is fruitless [468 words]slayhyDec 12, 2011 05:03191105
2You are either clueless or do not know Islam [304 words]Peter HallDec 12, 2011 23:37191105
Winning hands down...I am that good [456 words]Amin RiazDec 13, 2011 02:28191105
Ka'baa [88 words]slayhyDec 14, 2011 01:46191105
3So the Kabaa is a pagan temple! [243 words]Peter HallDec 14, 2011 18:45191105
1Jews stabbed Mohammad in the back and ..... [49 words]PrashantDec 15, 2011 13:24191105
5The master of Taqiyya strikes again [455 words]Peter HallDec 18, 2011 23:39191105
A list of Lies [1203 words]Amin RiazDec 20, 2011 18:30191105
5there you go again ... trying to hide the facts [370 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 02:34191105
5read your own comments [166 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 02:44191105
Better had stick to petty insults... [1106 words]Amin RiazDec 21, 2011 19:52191105
Defining Victory [230 words]Amin RiazDec 21, 2011 20:07191105
2Amin, you keep proving my point [418 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 20:26191105
4Its a shame you have no understanding of History [827 words]Peter HallDec 21, 2011 21:12191105
Do Palaeontologists think Dinosaurs backwards? [1036 words]Amin RiazDec 22, 2011 18:19191105
6Such Myopic responses to hide the truth [865 words]Peter HallDec 22, 2011 18:29191105
More lies... [352 words]Amin RiazDec 22, 2011 20:03191105
4Again you contradict yourself [1419 words]Peter HallDec 22, 2011 20:28191105
response [1743 words]Amin RiazDec 24, 2011 20:05191105
5Amin, you are truly a master of Taqiyya [1993 words]Peter HallDec 24, 2011 21:48191105
Peter Hall is beaten [86 words]slayhyDec 25, 2011 02:57191105
I am OPENLY LAUGHING ... [2454 words]Amin RiazDec 25, 2011 19:50191105
3Amin, I guess I can claim VICTORY using your own term that is. [1574 words]Peter HallDec 26, 2011 02:44191105
2still no answer? [531 words]Peter HallDec 26, 2011 18:52191105
A quick summary [231 words]Amin RiazDec 26, 2011 20:17191105
1More lies...as per usual [3088 words]Amin RiazDec 26, 2011 22:40191105
2still no answer. [487 words]Peter HallDec 27, 2011 20:07191105
Ignorance upon Ignorance [99 words]Amin RiazDec 28, 2011 17:57191105
Meaning of Foolishness. [312 words]Amin RiazDec 28, 2011 19:30191105
3Still full of hot air [401 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:03191105
2I asked for facts Amin [17 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:06191105
2I asked for facts Amin [303 words]Peter HallDec 28, 2011 20:24191105
Whinning for West [242 words]Amin RiazDec 29, 2011 18:30191105
Definition of a Fact [47 words]Amin RiazDec 29, 2011 18:34191105
2More hot Air Amin [139 words]Peter HallDec 29, 2011 22:14191105
More ... [381 words]Amin RiazDec 30, 2011 18:47191105
3Whinning? More Taqiyya? [1056 words]Peter HallDec 31, 2011 19:13191105
2Now you really are showing your desperation. [267 words]Peter HallJan 1, 2012 20:08191105
I have GOT to you! Gotcha [2194 words]Amin RiazJan 1, 2012 20:47191105
A Guide to Fiction (Gotcha!) [327 words]Amin RiazJan 2, 2012 18:12191105
4Frankly Amin, you would not know what evidence is if it slapped you in the face [1186 words]Peter HallJan 2, 2012 19:45191105
2... English vs. Arabic [265 words]Peter HallJan 2, 2012 20:01191105
Conveniently forgetting.... [210 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 17:37191105
3Thank you [207 words]Peter HallJan 3, 2012 18:20191105
More Fiction (Doctoring Figures) [836 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 20:14191105
You doctor the figures.... [132 words]Amin RiazJan 3, 2012 20:22191105
3Clearly you have trouble with reading [221 words]Peter HallJan 4, 2012 18:05191105
4Taqiyya Amin Strikes again [1380 words]Peter HallJan 4, 2012 19:45191105
Beginning of the End [474 words]Amin RiazJan 5, 2012 19:54191105
Nasty and Personal... why? [804 words]Amin RiazJan 5, 2012 20:44191105
2Taqiyya Amin strikes again, and again [162 words]Peter HallJan 5, 2012 23:33191105
2Taqiyya Amin strikes again, and again, and again [745 words]Peter HallJan 6, 2012 00:17191105
2Peter Hall You Could've Ended This Debate a Long TIme Ago With a Clear KO of Amin [257 words]BB KingJan 6, 2012 00:24191105
4Taqiyya Amin, on the floor, sobbing. [547 words]Peter HallJan 6, 2012 18:58191105
Calling Bluffs [486 words]Amin RiazJan 6, 2012 22:55191105
More time waste ... [242 words]Amin RiazJan 7, 2012 20:55191105
2... AMIN STRIKES AGAIN. His bluff called again and found wanting. [2015 words]Peter HallJan 8, 2012 01:23191105
A strange Invention [814 words]Amin RiazJan 10, 2012 22:30191105
1...Amin proves how the simple eludes him [793 words]Peter HallJan 11, 2012 18:20191105
Exposing FICTION. [164 words]Amin RiazJan 11, 2012 19:45191105
1What a simpleton ! [552 words]Peter HallJan 12, 2012 17:29191105
... PETER HALL [438 words]Amin RiazFeb 3, 2012 00:05191105
1...Amin strikes again, and again [486 words]Peter HallFeb 4, 2012 21:48191105
Admittance from Peter Hall - He made it up! [232 words]Amin RiazFeb 5, 2012 20:42191105
3Well ... Amin [309 words]Peter HallFeb 12, 2012 20:12191105
Bogus Formulas [28 words]Amin RiazFeb 13, 2012 19:09191105
2Before you ask again [128 words]Peter HallFeb 13, 2012 19:37191105
2I guess you can [24 words]Peter HallFeb 14, 2012 23:17191105
1Inventive Fabrications [55 words]Amin RiazMar 24, 2012 10:46191105
2I repeat my answer [72 words]Peter HallMar 25, 2012 03:59191105
1Bogus Arabic by wannabe Arabs and this time it is our dear slayhy [180 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2012 12:00191105
Lost tablighees [443 words]dhimmi no moreDec 1, 2012 10:57191105
1Exposing ignorance and you need to stick to Urdu our dear Amin! and this time the word Lazer revisited [170 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2015 12:19191105
letter order matters in Arabic as much as it does in any language. [136 words]LearningSep 16, 2016 05:24191105
Deir Yassin battle: fake "massacre" [7583 words]LauraJun 29, 2020 06:14191105
5Narcissism in the Ivory Tower [31 words]Charlie WeaverNov 22, 2011 10:53191103
2Arabist nonsense [59 words]Allan EricksonNov 22, 2011 09:37191102

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