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in response to reader comment: Our dear Jamil the Grand Poobah of all the grammarians!

Submitted by Jamil (United Kingdom), Mar 7, 2015 at 20:34

Our dear Jamil edited my post as usual

I wrote

And here is from not one but two dictionaries English/Arabichttp://www.wordreference.com/enar/receipt

I wrote

And here is another dictionaryhttp://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-arabic/receipt

And this is his answer

This "dictionary" also says the following:Is a certain translation missing here? Let us know or submit your own translation below.

You used an editable online dictionary. You are either a lazy couch potato or you just couldnt find any other dictionary to support your claim that: istilaam means receipt!

You must pardon me

You are pardoned, but go on lets hear you...

but ... they are asking you to comment Oh let me guess you cannot comment becuase you are ignorant right? Go and tell them that the Arabic word for Receipt is not Wasl or Isal and it is Istilam and you will be making a fool of yourself

Why are you making a fool of yourself? Tell me

I challenge you to post

I don't need to waste my time doing any such thing. You see I was expecting a strong case from you to show that istilaam does not and cannot mean receipt but your replies have not been worthy. I have a few other dictionaries, by Moslems, I was waiting to bring them into light but there really is no point as you haven't got over the first hurdle yet. Anyways...

Now why is dhimmi "the arabic expert" using editable online dictionaries. Straight to the trash can with this.

Oh i see you realized that the words Wasl and Isal really mean RECEIPT right?

And for you disciples who have probably figured what is going on you know very well that these two words Wasl and Isal were not in question so there is no need to bring them into the equation.

I rest my case

Why the lies? But you know what? your Arab masters have a wonderful saying that the ultimate liar is: الذي يكذب ويصدق كذبته! Oh الذي يكذب ويصدق كذبته? Go and ask the falafel guy or your stupid Mullah if he knows Arabic

I'm still waiting for a list of these Arab masters of mine who you seem to know more about than me and if you can't provide such a list then its straight to the trash can with this and what a waste of forum space.

Lets move on.

Move on? To Pakistan? If so then good riddance

But the word استلام means RECEIVING it does not mean receipt

This is his flawed response

Then you better write to the editors of Hans Wehr because on page426,

I had a valid point and I was being serious but anyways...

You must pardon me ... it is who has a claim must be the one that provides the evidence to support his claim which means that it is YOU that should ask the editor of Hans Wehr dictionary: how did Hans Wehr come to the conclusion that one of the 4 MEANINGS (and you did not mention three of them)

I didn't need to as they were not in contestion

is receipt and all we kuffar can do is to reject his claims until we examine the evidence but fools like you must demand to know how did the editors of the dictionary come to this conclusion and in the meantime we kuffar make fun of you

Thank you for that important bit of info but lets get over it and moving on...

But wait you believe that an Arabian deity spoke to an Arabian warlord via an angel I see you believing any nonsense

Ye of little faith?

I agree that an Arabian diety speaking to an Arabian warlord via an angel is complete nonsense. Now moving on...

Now do you get it?

On a serious point you have not proved that istilaam does not and cannot mean receipt!

And this is why Ibn Manzur provides an Isnad to support any meaning for any word in Lisan al-Arab so it is you that has to contact Hans Wehr and tell them to povide you with al-Isnad to support such claim. All we kuffar can do is to make fun of you and your likes

You are a poorly educated man

Like Ibn Manzur and the Moslems I presume even though you have just quoted his dictionary?

they have listed استلام as "receipt" and here is the link for those of you that want to check it for yourselves:https://archive.org/details/Dict_Wehr.pdf

Can you tell the readers word for word what does your idol Hans Wehr the "Grand Poobah" I mean "Grand Grammarian" (which is a stupid remark) tell us about the meaning of the word Istilam every word!

Fine, I'll reword this as well: Hans Wehr the ARABIST says that ISTILAAM means RECEIPT. Happy now?

Now read 'em and weep and make sure you do report back.

You are not even funny or original.

I'm not trying to be funny and I am original.

Oh you did not answer my question: I understand that our dear Amin reverted back to Hinduism is that true?

Yeah I think it is true, are you ok with the Hindus? Is it just the Moslems that bother you?

Submitting....

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