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Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Dec 24, 2011 at 20:05

BY THE WAY AMIN, DEFENCE not defense, another example of your superior English Amin? ...

Typos aren't really mistakes - more oversights. But the word DEFENSE/DEFENCE. Ha ha ha - ... given the amount of HOWLERS you have committed.

Not knowing the language/s they speak in Middle East, What an adjective is, Proper Nouns Vs Common Nouns, Which language they speak in India, All academics are prejudiced and etc. This does top the list.

This is almost intellectual bullying.....

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You try and hide and deflect when you say

What is that I deflect and hide.... see you always make such statements (lies) but never actually give any evidence. Sinister.

Then you move on .... as you have done here. I have asked you before I will ask you now what is it that I "Hide and Deflect". And why do you have trouble answering....

I understood exactly what you said Amin, but you do not like the fact that most Muslims neither read nor understand Arabic, and they only memorise the Koran without understanding it, is that not a fact?

Most Muslims do not know Arabic. But they do not memorise it en masse either. Why would I not like that? Muslims come from many different cultures, races and languages. But many still attempt to learn the classical

All Muslim cultures have their own systems and traditions of learning Classical Arabic.

As of December 31, 2005, the largest source countries of refugees are Afghanistan, Iraq, Myanmar, Somalia, South Sudan, and the Palestinian Territories.[citation needed] The country with the largest number of IDPs is South Sudan, with over 5 million. As of 2006, with 800,000 refugees and IDPs, Azerbaijan had the highest per capita IDP population in the world.[8]

Countries with severe war problems - most bombed by USA! And are you honestly saying this, this, this shows ... Arab migration? Do you even know how many countries in that list are Arab?

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Again you ask for proof, I give you proof. Any fool would know this information, you show you devious nature by asking for proof of what is commonly known to try and dodge the issues again. So when was the last time a boatload of English tries to seek asylum in Lebanon? When did the last group of Americans try and seek into Saudi Arabia? When did the last group of Australians wash up on the shores of Afghanistan? When did the last boat load of Italians wash up on the shores of Algeria?

But you didn't give proof - you have AGAIN simply used a reference site - Wiki the first one that comes up. Got few figures that AGAIN do not support your assertion. Again more lying.

Third ...... how many Westerners go and work in UAE, Oman, Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar... all the oil-rich Arab countries? I'll let you answer that one.

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I have answered this many times Amin, but your inability to understand means I have to repeat myself many times. What Scholars say about their own fields is prejudiced. That is the point of this whole article.

So every single Academic - who actually studies and knows

WOW - and you have formed these VIEWS out of ignorance .... not reading one book about the subject ... has got divine knowledge, is it?

You who speak from deep prejudice, loathing, ignorance and hate?

Dear ... you have trouble answering questions like - why is that you cannot understand English?

So how are you going to know anything about Arabic.

Way Hay! Do you self medicate yourself .... given no doctor will know your diagnosis ... is that why you are still out?

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You keep repeating your views over and over and then you lie over and over to protect them. I have EXPOSED you thoroughly and completely ..... When has that been my defense. That is precisely the reason I gave you and asked of you views and works of Western Scholars - and you lied over that as well.

I have answered this many times Amin, but your inability to understand means I have to repeat myself many times. What Scholars say about their own fields is prejudiced. That is the point of this whole article.

Here by default you lose the argument.... if experts cannot be honest... Wikipedia that you love to use wrongly does not stand a chance. Them are forged figures. Amateurs edit that!

Can anyone claim such ignorance?

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I have shown the consumers do not like or use Arabic when better alternatives are available.

More lies .....

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Its fails on every measure as a weak language in its application to the use in the modern world. I do not need to be an expert to know that a Beta max cassette is not as good as a CD. The persons who collects Beta max tapes and those that invented and manufactured it think it was great, but the consumers of the world did not agree. The world has moved on Amin and Arabic is as outdated as your opinion.

How does it fail..... and where does it fail? You have never been to Arabia - you dont speak the language - you understand it.... yet you have IGNORANT VIEWS.

To find the difference between tapes - you have got to use the first and then compare. If your analogy is to work ..... then learn and use Arabic then compare - then comeback. Just because one learn to speak Arabic - does not make one an expert either.

And how is Arabic outdated?

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE THE ARABS SPEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It is a legitimate areas of study, the same as Arabic is. But that does not mean it is a strong language when it has so many flaws. Language is a tool, not Arabic when anybody looks at how it copes in the modern world can see it does not cope well.The world is not astounded by Arabic Literature, only a few western Scholars and a few Educated Arabs bother to read it, That is a fact. Otherwise show me the number of editions of Arabic literature sold each year that proves me wrong!!

Again you have no evidence for this at all...no figures - you have NOT even read one book about Arabic or Arabic literature. So how is that you have formed these views?

there is a Word beyond USA, EUROPE and West.....

Arabic literature is read .... in India, China, Russia, Asia and Africa. How about a few writers..... whose works have been translated into several languages.

Anis Mansoor, Mahmood Darwish, Izz ad Din Madani, Zakariya Tamir, Muhammad al-Zafzaf, Ibrahim al-Faqih, Najib Mahfouz, Hanan al-shaykh, Muhammad Shukri, Idwar al-Kharrat, Salwa Bakr, Yusuf Idris, Layla al-Uthman, al-Takrali...... and etc.

These I know from top of my head.... would you like more?

Which flaws? Which linguistic flaws does Arabic have? And where is you evidence.... make usre you answer this.

YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT AN ADJECTIVE IS IN ENGLISH -

so how do you know if Arabic is flawed..... which linguist says so? You have trouble understanding how academia works.

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Now I do agree that my English has not been perfect here by any means, partly due to the fact that I am typing on a phone with a tiny keypad, so I apologise to the readers here for my typos, and some of my errors are been me being lazy in my typing here. However, I find it arrogant of you Amin in the extreme to assume you have a better command of English than I do, especially when your comments are full of errors as well.

Actually my command is far far superior than yours..... it is not the typos that show that.... its grammar mistakes.... and ESPECIALLY NOT KNOWING WHAT AN ADJECTIVE IS.

AND THEN THE LIE OVER THE WORD "LAZER".

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I also find it very funny, that a claimed linguist, who is responding to an admitted Amateur in the field of Arabic, seems to gain virtually no endorsement by their fellow readers, yet my comments seem to get a degree of support?

You are not amateur - that would require some study.... you are no body. This site is NOT pro-Muslim. Muslims don't visit here.... come to a Muslim forum then see the difference.

This site is

No one has left a single comment in you defense.... so what support have you got?

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You lack of critical thinking also is betrayed in saying you believe I probably have not read 10 books in the last year? Now I would interpret a reader being able to contribute and comment in an areas outside of their expertise, as I have; to be indicative of someone who does read widely and feels confident in expressing their own views.

So how many books have you read about Arabic? .... You STILL HAVENT ANSWERED. Why? You express views .... so does virtually every human on earth. It is like say you eat... what a surprise. Why don't you name any ten books you have read. Non-fiction of course.

If we were discussing Engineering or Chemistry, I would be very comfortable in being able to dismiss any comments by you with ease, unless of course by some miracle you were right for once !

Yet without ever reading a single book on Arabic .... you have views.... not even knowing what an adjective is yet... you have very negative views on Arabic.

ones which were borne out of ignorance hate and prejudice.

What do you have to say in your defense, opps that is a Amin spelling, defence? Are you going to go off on another tangent Amin? Are you going to be petty to avoid the big questions? Or would you like to discuss the effects of cooling rates in the formation crystallisation matrix of nanocrytalline alloys?

He he he you did not even bother to check the spelling - yet you had the audacity to criticise - but that is YOU in a nutshell - someone who cannot even look up a word.....

"the effects of cooling rates in the formation crystallisation matrix of nanocrytalline alloys"

I have never claimed to know much about the above.... and that is not the basics of Chemistry/Physics - advanced stuff. But one is expected to know about adjectives.... if one is claiming what you claim.

Submitting....

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