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"Fraud" vs. "Stolen Election"

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Submitted by Ludvikus (United States), Jan 9, 2022 at 13:20

You use both terms or expressions once. But they refer to two different events. Fraud refers to the Re-Election, while Stolen refers, in my book, the the whole four (4) years of Trump's presidency.

I want to remind you that trump did or tried to do what he promised in his campaign. He is probably the worst orator to the middle and upper classes who ever was elected. But he certainly struck a popular chord which got him elected.

As an intellectual, I do not think you can understand him; I know you know that he's a Salesman. A salesman sells something tangible; that is not what a Politician does. A politician is often Dishonest to acquire Votes; he or she primarily wants to get Elected. But Trump - as a Real Estate Tycoon, was to make his USA ("Real Estate") Great. He loves his country. He wants it great like his extravagant apartment and buildings.

The attack on the Election process, or result, must be taken Metaphorically; Trump was outfoxing his political adversaries; he was doing what they do, but to a much greater extreme. The January 6th event was not an Insurrection, as the Democrats and Progressives would like us to believe, but a Riot that was cause by Nancy Pelosi, and her Democratic Cohort that hates the Police an failed to protect the Capitol when the long march on it ensued.

That the Election was Stolen must be interpreted in the context of the Four Years and Persecution of Trump from the 1st day of his Election; and, by the way, he took that abuse very well.

I hope President Trump is going to be elected again, after the House becomes Republican. As far as I'm concerned, Trumps had his Re-Election "Stolen" by the Open Conspiracy of the Democrats, Progressives, and Black Lives Matter.

Regarding the Covid Conspiracy, you seem to overlook the fact that he announced that he is fully vaccinated, to the unfortunate chagrin of anti-Vaxxers - even though this cohort would likely vote for him.

The issue I think that needs addressing, is the consequences of Social Media or Digital Media, and the public getting its news and information on their mobile phones. Buy merely telling Republican leaders to avoid conspiracy theories, you wish to turn Politicians into Educators. You do not cite the demographics and what one needs to say to get elected. Shall we not call our age THE AGE OF CONSPIRACY? Or, as you might prefer, THE AGE OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES?

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