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Motke: Syriac and Aramaic ABGAD v Arabic

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Submitted by dhimmi no more, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:22

Hi Motke, You wrote

>(Apropos pronunciation: I stumbled upon a few youtube videos showing young Syriac speakers. They weren't pronouncing the ع and ح like in Arabic. This surprised me. Is this normal? And do they distinguish between the stop/fricative variants of ܒ ܓ ܕ ܟ ܦ ܬ ? )

I wish it is this simple. It goes back to the fact that Syriac and Aramaic alphabet consists of 22 letters. However, Arabic alphabet was supposed to be 22 letters. However, the non Arab grammarians (Persians) added and expanded the alphabet to 28. However, the initial 22 letters are preserved in the acronym ابجد هوز حطي كلمن سعفص قرشت or ABGD

Here is the real Arabic alphabet

ابجد هوز حطي كلمن سعفص قرشت

Or a total of 22 letters

These letters were added

د/ذ ع/غ ح/خ ط/ظ ص/ض ت/ث

But you do not need them. Syriac/Aramaic alphabet (and I suspect Arabic alphabet) works very well without the extra Arabic letters ذ غ خ ط ص ت

Again, this is what happens when non Arabs (Persians) write the books of early Islam grammar and alphabet included

I suspect that there was a linguistic disconnect between Muhammad's language which was a mix of Syriac and Arabic and 3rd century Arabic! Why? I suspect that the Arabs should have been in charge of their own language. But the smart and erudite Persians took over and made Islam and the Quran what they are today: Confused and confusing

Next? al-Tabari caught editing the Qur'an! So much for the big fat lie that not a single word in the Qur'an has been edited

Submitting....

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