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Dhimmi: Pigs meat

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Submitted by Motke (Israel), Nov 15, 2018 at 17:02

Hi, DNM!

[Sorry, again, for not yet replying to everything.]

> If you check Q2:173 [...]
> So is the Qur'an talking about meal of
> pig's meat? And why would the author of
> the Qur'an seems to tell us that Lahm
> al-Khanzeer means pig's meat?

Let me throw a wild conjecture: Maybe the Quran is telling us that it's the *meat* that's forbidden and not, say, its milk? (or its urine, for medicine, or its brain, or blood...)

(I can already see, 100 years from now, a video titled "Science proves the Holy Quran! Brain transplants from pigs, so common nowadays, were foretold and are allowed in Islam!")

(Does the Quran use the formula "X's meat" for all other non-halal animals? Or are pigs an exception?)

> the word meat in Arabic comes in two forms:
> ‎1. لحمة [...] which is more likely than not from Syriac ܠܚܡܐ
> ‎2. لحم

Isn't the ة suffix just a way to say "a piece/item of ..."? E.g., وردة, شجرة?

> If you check Q2:173 the text tells us about
> Lahm al-Khanzeer or the Lahm of the pig

BTW, I'm embarrassed to say it, but at first I couldn't understand what pig you were talking about. I'm so used to a certain Muslim attitude that when I see "khanzeer" I think it means "Christian", not the animal.

Sad.

I guess that's the result of being exposed to comments by Muslims on the internet (e.g., لعنة الله عليهم being a common reply on youtube to videos showing Israelis) or to some "charming" proverbs (e.g., كل عند اليهودي ونام عند المسيحي). Psychologists would say I suffer from "conditioning". Mea culpa ;-)

(Funny: I've just googled this proverb to see if I got it right and I found a variation: تغدّى عند درزي ونام عند مسيحي. The "jewish" one is hundreds times more common, though :-) Whatever, it seems like when you're Arab it isn't safe to sleep anywhere :-)

(Speaking of eating at the Jew's: it was once accepted that Jewish meat is halal. Nowadays more and more voices are saying it isn't. (If I understand correctly, that's because the blessing is uttered per process, not per animal.) I wonder if this change stems from real religious zeal, or from the politization of Islam.)

> Mr Hegab disagrees with his Allah as you shall
> see. He said not a single Jew for the past 4000
> years has prayed to any other God except to YHWH

(Does Mr Hegab mean that "YHWH" not equals "Allah"? If so, Jewish meat would've never been halal.)

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