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Our dear Wasim does not answer questions because he is a careless reader

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 21, 2014 at 07:19

When our dear Wasim is asked question we never get straight answers

For this purpose, I am exposing my belief before you. These Khalifahs were not the successor of Muhammad. The ideology of both was different from Muhammad.

Our dear Dawudi is asking about the veracity of the Islamic literary sources he is not asking about what you think and he is not interested in your cockamamie history either

So you tell us our dear Wasim should we believe what your Arab masters tell us about their history or should we believe your bizarre history you tell me

And where is you extant literary evidence that al-Khulafa' al-Rashiduun were indeed real historical human beings let me help you the first attested real person in the saga of Arabian imperialism is Mu3awiyya

After the death of Umar, Abdul-Rehman bin Awf (to whom Umar appointed at the time of his death 'for taking the decision of Khilafat')

ROTFL it is al-Khilafa but where is your EXTANT evidence that Omar al-Farauq was for real? Let me help you there is nothing written about him for a long time after his death

asked to Ali that "if you are appointed as a Khalifah then

It is al-Khilafa

, will you follow the footsteps of Abu Bakr and Umar?". Ali replied "in any condition I will not follow the footsteps of them".

So did Ali and Abu Bakr exit and were they for real? where is your evidence?

After that he asked the same question to Usman. Usman said "definitely I will follow the footsteps of both in every talk"; Usman was appointed as a third Khalifah.The mutiny people killed to Usman.

Oh Othman who burned copies of the Qur'an astaghfirullah (and I'm being sarcastic here) And he was buried with the Jews of Medina right? and what does this have to do with our dear Dawudi's question about the veracity of the Islamic literary sources?

You are and you must pardon me no more than another Indian who spends his life creating cockamamie religious cults like Mirza Ghulam who died from diarrhea in a bathroom and good riddance

By putting the pressure 'Ali was made as Khalifah'; but Ayesha declared war against Ali through the announcement for taking revenge on 'the killers of Usman' that "the killers are hidden within the armed forces of yourself".

So speaking of 3A'isha is it true that she used to cheat on Quthm and did she breast feed the youth of Quraish as we are told by the Shi3a?

What a disaster

When Ayesha got out-of-the-way then Ma'aviyah

ROTFL his name is Mu3awiyya but you tell me why would he have a Syriac name as in Arabic his name should have been al-3Awee or he who howls could it be because he was not Muslim and he was a Christian Arab and how come there is a cross before his name at the Ghadra bathhouse and why did he establish his capital in Damascus and not in Medina?

Hint: He was not Muslim

came in the way for the war.Even Ma'aviyah 'on seeing the defeat of self', he cheated in believing the 'decision of HAKAM'. Abu Musa was from the side of Ali, on the day of decision he accepted to Umru bin Al-Aas as HAKAM who was from the side of Ma'aviyah. Umru rejected 'to Ali as Khalifah', announced his decision that 'Ma'aviyah is Khalifah'. Now, it is very clear that 'Ali did not become the Khalifah' and 'Ma'aviyah became the fourth Khalifah'.

Where can I find this gobbledygook in the extant books of al-Tarikh?

He is asking you about the veracity of the Islamic literary sources

You are and you must pardon me a careless reader

Wasim AhmedMaharshtra, India.

Like I said I feel sorry for you

Submitting....

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