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Submitted by Ivar (Ireland), Oct 30, 2009 at 20:28

It seems like I've got in wrong company...Ooops! Well,nothing to do! Every job must be finished! Russians have a saying: Good job is done job! First of all I have to express all my respect towards the megatons of knowledge that is held by your gray mass inside your skull! (How could it positively affect the run of history?) Yeah! It is not not surprising me at all as I have a life time experience with Jews. These people always were SO smart and have been keeping a huge amount of reliable,but can't be proved by anyone information! Well,I will not sink in deep discussion with you,Sir as I am not equivalent to you neither in knowledge amount nor in English as this is my fourth one,but unfortunately I started to learn it too late...

I've been going through your very fundamental historical guide. Thanks for reminding me that and enlightening me in some way as well! Well,you are MA in history. Great! Just I have to ask you - what history? History of our planet Earth or history how does Jews are understand it? Knowledge. What is it? I think this is just a sum of what we were reading during our educational process and were sure that this is true,because someone told us it. But - what is real knowledge? What is real history? What is prove of and how does this prove can be proved that this is real (not false) prove? You didn't stood neither beside Kisinger nor you've been living under Hitler's or Stalin's or first Pope's regime! How could you be sure that this was true and real history? You've been just reading it in books or studied in university where all what you've been saying were accepted by professors.

What I want to say is that we are just a parrots. Monkeys who are imitate an actions accepted by society. Nothing else! There are really very few people all around the world who could be called as educated ones,those who know a real truth about the path of humanity during mileniums of time.Are you so brave to be included in this list? I definitely can't say this about myself! And not because I have less knowledge than you have.I am simply realistic enough for understand it! But you are proud Jew! Thought Christian one...Good for you! (Are you accepted as a Jew in your Jewish community?) Don't tell me a stories,Sir! You may expect me as less educated than you are; you can expect me as an anti semitist (thouhgt I am not!) - doesn't metter! I don't care as paper (diploma) is close to nothing in most of heart-thinking and feeling people's eyes! And heart is the mane organ who indicates our real state of knowledge and education. I always was sceptical to those with degrees! And I am not alone! This is not a jeleausy at all - this is proved reality. Those by megatons of collected (parrot) knowledge are not able to feel out and understand a lot of things so necessary and characteristical to human race! I will not sink in deep analysis of hystorical facts (instead of you) as I even didn't read about what does Golda Meyra have been eating in her lunch or what kind of woman did Henry Kissinger loved behind his home life and how does it affected the history of the modern times! It had some influence indeed!

But as for me I more centred on values of our society and how does these values are affecting the future of whole human society instead.All what we do,all what we create must be be do by our hearts not by brain computer,I think.The mind is tricky and could be manipulated easely by anyone else. That's what we can see all around the globe in nowdays! Israely's are killing out Arabs. Americans are killing out any nation. Russians are killing out their ex-colonials and so on and so force... This is the result of the action of our mind. Not a heart! If we would live accordingly on our heart we would say: Hey you, Arabs! You are a dirty liars! We will not communicate with you anymore! We simply will not accept and will have no any deal with you BUT we will not kill you! You will die into your own sins and bad deeds naturally! Just don't try to tell me a stories about innocent Jews and guilty rest of the world,please! It is well known for now who were created a French Revolution,October Revolution in Russia,the Second world War. Who have been killing out all the Royal families all around the world?!

Yes-there were the locals! BUT - inspired by those who were the first who got the (so called) the King of the World and afterwards spread this teaching in deformated form all around the world! Have I a prove? Of course I have no! But this version of history is more simphathetic for me than your one! Probably it were the Russian communists who killed out nearly half of my people during and after the Second World War. BUT - I better believe in stories told by my grandparents who were the witness of events of these times than to the version of official (so called) historians. So,where to did we get now? Into the blind drive,I think! I'd reccomend you,dear MA in history sit down and pre-evaluate all the events and values of our society from the spectrum of the heart - not the collected information and brains. You can't agree with me when I am calling to open the minds and hearts? Am I wrong with it? No! When you,Jews or any nation onto this planet will open the mind and heart; when all of us will see further than our own 'garden' is and will notice that there are the same people around with the same physical and mental qualities - when we will will feel ourselves into their shoes and will try to understand,help,communicate and living together with them - just then we will become as real human beings! Ones who will accept this planet as our homeland for all of us - with no borders,without killing and abusing each other!

Don't you like a New Age,Sir? I am sorry about that! I do not accept nothing before I didn't filtrate it through my heart. There is some basic Universal principal around called in Chinese as Ing-Yang. Simply saying - the coin has a two sides. We can take what suites better to us. As I am doing is this case. And I am sure I am right as I understand the basic principal of Universe - nothing remain forever! All is changing up,but it means that an old paradigms going away and new ones are coming instead. One who aren't able to follow this movement of universe will die. If you feel comfortable with old paradigms who were good for ancient societies - you can stay with them and manipulate with them by killing Arabs or Iraquees or Bosnians - whoever! But make sure - some day the Wall of Cries will fall down! Which side you will be at - this is your choice! I don't wanna be neither you Rabbi nor Preacher,Sir as I am not. I just want to give you advise - sit down,relax and send the all Love you have into your heart to whole the world! Any nation,any creature upon this sky! With no collected knowledge included! Get out from your nerrow garden and you will be much happier!

Love and Peace! P.S. DId you remember when you last time cleaning the spider nets from your windows?

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