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Submitted by Kashayar (United States), Sep 18, 2009 at 04:05

>>Hindu fascism is a reaction to the successes of islamic fascism and imperialism and deceits in the Indian Subcontinent (ISC)
Same NAZI rant applied in a different context.

>>There is no anti-minority religious fascism in India by hindus
Joke !

Hegdewar the founder of the RSS and Golwalkar his successor have been total fascists who praised and propounded Hitler's theory of genocide. RSS was founded in 1925 with clear Fascist objectives (much before the partition of the ISC). Their membership is above 5 million as of today. And I have not considered the numbers of Bajrang Dal and VHP. Toghther they even outnumber the Indian armed forces and indulge in the typical low tech high volume terrorism aka rioting. And their numbers are much much higher than the black sheep within our community.

They control the Hindu right wing party BJP which was in power at the center and holds power in many states of the Indian union.

>>All those who entered ISC became Indians.
Really !
Why were Biharis bashed up in Mumbai ? Or Hindi signboards blackened in Tamil Nadu ? Or a madrasi or a person from north-east ridiculed in the North ?

>>The kuran teaches muslims even today (more than ever before) that they are a separate, superior and supremacy-entitled nation or supra-nation.
Same as the BJP+RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal combo who shout "Hindustan only for the Hindus"

>>Islam has been always a fascist totalitarian imperialist and terrorizing ideology even since the times of Mohammad. Islam will never allow muslims to be genuinely loyal to India and indianess.
What about the caste system in your own community ? What about your law-giver Manu and his Manusmriti ? What about the caste system in your own community ? It is the fanatics from the majority community who question/provoke the loyalties of the average Indian Muslim.

>>The muslim understanding of brotherhood is exemplified by the relation between Dara Shukoh and Aurangzeb (who assassinated the elder brother Dara in 1659).
What about Bali in Ramayana who kept his brother Sugreev's wife by force after kicking him out ? What about Pandavas and Kauravas in Mahabharat ? Your Dharmaraj Yudishtra wagered his wife to his brothers in the game of dice? Or Bimbisara and Ajatashatru where son killed the father for the throne ?

>>but rather a weak and belated reaction to the disloyal anti-indian ideologies and activities of the muslims (in general, but with some few exceptions) and some few christians.
So you burned Graham Staines alive along with his two kids for serving lepers from your lower castes ?
As per your definition the murderers were not fascists but patriots.

>>It was a great blunder by Mahatma Gandhi to have issued the slogan hindu muslim bhai bhai.
So you believe that Hindus and Muslims should not be brothers. Ironically Gandhi was assasinated by a Hindu terrorist who had similar convictions.

>>The hindu-sikh conflict arose only after some self-appointed sikh leaders started imitating the muslims...
That was a politically manufactured conflict with tacit Paki support. Initially Indira Gandhi supported Bhindranwale to undermine Buta Singh in Punjab and when this very tiny fraction of Sikhs went out of her control she used disproportionate amounts of force to storm the Sikh's most holy shrines. The anti-sikh riots that followed her assasination only worsened the situation.

>The partition of India is a result of the kuran ..
No. It is as result of the existing distrust among the various religious communities and the spineless of the our leaders who let it happen along with the complicity of the British who kept their troops inert. If people want to do something wrong they will always find some book. If they can't they they will write one.

>>The muslim population component (in 60 years) has increased from 6.5% to 16% in India, the hindu population component in Pakistan West has decreased from 25% to 2%
The Indian muslim cannot and must not be held accountable for the actions of Muslims in Pakistan.

>>and in East (Bangladesh) from 40% to 10%.
Correction: from 20% to 10%

In 1971 a Parsi a Sikh and a Jew (FM Manekshaw, Gen. Arora and Gen. Jacob)lead a very successful military offensive on pakis and liberated Bangladesh. And a Hindu (Indira Gandhi) who had far more authority than the above three let nearly 1 lakh war criminals (of the worst kind) from the paki army return unharmed to their homes. All this for a signature from Bhutto on the Shimla Agreement which the pakis anyway never honoured.

>>Intelligence includes common sense. In any case you, as one of the two participants in this competition, cannot decide who the winner is or shall be (hoping it will be a long drawn out competition).
... Don't be surprised if I don't respond to your drivel.


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