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Submitted by Michael S, Feb 5, 2017 at 00:38

Hi, Mitch

Daniel Pipes had made the comment,

"As is so often the case, Europeans lead Americans attitudinally by some years, maybe as much as a decade."

Daniel was, as he later commented, talking about our "behind" the Europeans with regards to attitudes towards the Muslims. Whatever he meant by that, it is where the talk about, as you say, "being competitive" came from.

Europe is definitely in "competition" with the US -- mostly in the form of being against us, no matter what we do. They didn't help us out in Vietnam, a war the French got us into, whereas the British were fighting a similar war in Malaysia at the time and also trading with the North Vietnamese. So much for "allies". It may have been payback to us for 1956, when the British and French teamed up with Israel to take back the Suez Canal, but our President Eisenhower conspired with the Soviets against them. Then the French dropped out of NATO, and De Gaulle got kicked out of Canada for agitating the Quebecois. Then we were humiliated by the Iranians alone, without help. We saw US flags being burned around the world, sometimes even in Europe; but never saw French or German flags being burned.

After the Soviet Empire fell, the Europeans started helping us out a bit, after MUCH coaxing and arm-twisting, seeing that they didn't have much of an alternative. Even so, we had to shoulder dome 80-90% of the burden in Kuwait, Afghanistan (the hot and dangerous times) and Iraq. We got dragged into the Kosovo War, a conflict that benefited mostly the Germans; and then into Libya, for the benefit of the Italians and French.

Is that competition? I would say so. We certainly aren't enemies; but sometimes, when I hear Merkel, Hollande and Juncker criticizing my President, I wonder if they aren't trying to restart World War II (NOT III), with the Russians, Brits and us against the Continent. I don't know how that matter will sort itself out. Hitler's gone, but his collective reincarnation seems to be meeting every year at Davos. George Soros is among them, Hungary's finest Nazi collaborator. Maybe he's itching for the "good old days" of his youth. We live in strange times, very strange; but geography hasn't changed much, and geography drives politics.

Back on the topic, you said,

"The practice in Italy is to shut down mosques or prayer rooms which are not registered and remove imams preaching despicable views from the country... Why can Italy do that?"

Nobody hates the Italians, so they can do as they please. I know why the US President doesn't do those things -- he would be sued, by Jewish lawyers and Counterculture "useful idiots", financed by George Soros, a group called the "Democratic Party". They are a very powerful group. You continued,

"For example, Islam is not a recognized religion in Italy; the right to practice a religion is not guaranteed by the constitution; there is no right of free speech; and, most importantly, a person can be accused of a crime 'by association'."

As I said, the Italians can do as they please, and nobody cares. If an American or Israeli sneezes, we are accused of starting an epidemic and poisoning the wells.

I don't know how the Dutch fare in all this, or the Swedes and some others. The French and Belgians seem lost in space. The Brits are separating themselves from the madness; and maybe the French and Dutch will follow suit. We'll see. Merkel keeps telling people to take in more Muslims: She's a complete nut case; but she may even get re-elected. Maybe she's Divine retribution against us, for our having allowed eight years of Obama. I just want to find the Wizard


so I can get back to Kansas! God help us... and God bless you and yours.

Yes, you've been helpful. Shalom shalom :-)


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Title Commenter Date Thread
I don't think Europe is "ahead" of us [290 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Michael SSep 9, 2016 04:21232462
what's the point? [229 words]MitchFeb 3, 2017 06:33232462
Can you please get me back to Kansas? [656 words]Michael SFeb 5, 2017 00:38232462
Freedom to go stark naked? [85 words]Gary E.Sep 29, 2015 07:00225394
There's a direction to all this, and the Muslims aren't to blame. [228 words]Michael SSep 10, 2016 17:40225394
1Worrying about headscarves, while "skirting" around the problem [614 words]Michael SJan 21, 2015 06:53220550
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eyes [21 words]jerome HenenJul 17, 2011 14:18187512
Burqas in France [183 words]John StaufferApr 12, 2011 21:58184204
4the "prophet mohammed" spoke clearly against women, the burqa is just a way of enforcing domination and supression of women. ..May ..2010 [169 words]Phil GreendMay 3, 2010 03:46172027
Burqa video [41 words]JenTDec 13, 2009 01:56165762
2The two faces of Islam - Read the book "23 Years" by Ali Dashti to understand Islam by understanding its development [140 words]FriendOfIslamDec 8, 2009 02:09165486
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To Burqa Or Not To Burqa That's A Question Of World Thought [282 words]D.K.Milgrim-HeathSep 22, 2010 21:41162428
God bless that lady [9 words]dfwhite19438Sep 27, 2009 02:53162171
headscarf ban in vlaanderen(dutch speaking belgium) starting from 2010 [42 words]savingthewesternworldSep 16, 2009 12:41161632
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The thing about living in the EU [28 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiSep 1, 2009 00:56160848
1Time to unveil [168 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 16, 2009 14:19160272
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1My theory of the Burqa [208 words]LynnJul 16, 2009 07:57158911
Sarkozy's Fatwa [26 words]Vinod GulatiJul 13, 2009 22:37158819
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1Hypocrisy just got BIGGER [252 words]KashayarSep 9, 2009 05:30158819
competition about who is the bigger hypocrite [90 words]G.VishvasSep 9, 2009 21:28158819
1You win the competition hands on [206 words]KashayarSep 11, 2009 06:48158819
You cannot unilaterally decide who wins [271 words]G.VishvasSep 12, 2009 20:53158819
1Common sense decides the winner [472 words]KashayarSep 14, 2009 07:44158819
Intelligence includes common sense [884 words]G.VishvasSep 14, 2009 20:02158819
Common sense is quite uncommon [801 words]KashayarSep 18, 2009 04:05158819
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It's true [33 words]Vermilion8Nov 5, 2009 13:32158819
2What is wrong in wearing ski masks in public [19 words]PPSMay 6, 2010 04:09158819
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Interesting but... [99 words]AhuJan 27, 2010 16:4868303
1Yes about Jews And Israel [193 words]D.K. Milgrim-HeathMay 17, 2010 07:3068303
You are wrong.. [119 words]amqwertySep 2, 2010 13:0968303
2Historically Inaccurate! [215 words]MaizeSep 18, 2011 04:3668303
rare truth [12 words]2bussyJul 6, 2012 17:4968303
Burkahs should never be required. [5 words]WalkerSep 19, 2012 04:4268303
Optional [6 words]walkerSep 19, 2012 04:4368303
jewish women and veils [178 words]ghaberFeb 12, 2015 19:0168303
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Praise be to the Dutch [53 words]Octavio JohansonNov 18, 2006 19:2966521
The problem with tolerance [165 words]Octavio JohansonNov 19, 2006 14:1766521
Well, now... [238 words]munineyeDec 18, 2008 03:3466521
Amen, Octavio! When immigrating to another country, fit in! [20 words]Mike ConlonNov 23, 2015 23:2766521
Europe's burqa wars [254 words]BrunoNov 18, 2006 14:2466515
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1God bless the dutch [32 words]George PJul 12, 2009 01:0364492
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burkah the shield [52 words]saq from ukMay 1, 2006 17:5538031
Typical [259 words]AaronMay 7, 2006 07:2038031
Not a typical response !! [261 words]KhatibMay 11, 2006 15:2038031
un-moral morals [43 words]susanSep 23, 2006 15:1438031
saq, how naive... [47 words]susanSep 23, 2006 15:1738031
1advice on the superior muslim mothers [61 words]susanSep 23, 2006 15:2038031
Questions [209 words]oswaldSep 24, 2006 01:4838031
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What about .....? [92 words]ISisJul 13, 2009 02:3038031

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