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Reader comment on item: Once considered anti-Islam, senior scholar says he's now in the middle
in response to reader comment: Stoning of Adulterous

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Aug 28, 2010 at 09:50

The erudite Mr. Ghulman writes:

.'....as if Islam has a monopoly on such 'draconian' measures. '

You are absolutely right.. How could we be so blind?

There are often stonings in Europe, Canada and the US. And let's not leave out whipping the skin off the backs of people. Amputations for theft, too. I'm sure of this, it has to be true - especially as you've just reassured us. As if Islam has a monopoly on such draconian measures!!!! How could anyone come to that conclusion? Ah, the ignorance of these Infidels .....

....He cared for the plight of the new-born baby too. ...."

What is 'mufa'khanath' again?

..........'So the entire scenerio is not characterised on brutality,'

No, you're right - again!!! Why do we even question it ?

Not the ENTIRE scenario. Just the end bit. You know, the bit when a living, breathing, conscious yet helpless human being has fist sized rocks thrown at them. Feeling every blow until their head eventually caves in and they die from blunt force trauma or bleed to death.

And this is exacerbated by the sense of utter and absolute betrayal - because some of the stone throwers you might have grown up with - or helped or have been helped by as you lived your life. Do you think some of the throwers had second thoughts?

Hopefully they did - but hey, who can question the reasons given by a self-styled hallucination-prone 'prophet' - who was known to have flown on buraqs and split the moon with his little finger? I mean, who would want to mess with a guy like that? What brave men they must have been to have carried out the orders of the prophet. This islam is so enlightened.

Which brings to mind another question - do you thnk that Mo carried out any of the stonings himself - or did he just leave it to his lackeys? I mean, he was a 'prophet' and everything. and, well stoning is a very messy business - and we can't have prophets getting their dresses dirty. Not a good look.
'...... but the uphold the law with a spirit of tolerance. ..' Hmmm, is that what you call it?

Call me old-fashioned but the thing is - MO sitting there with his 9 year old girlfriend** and pontificating on the sex lives of women. (or men) - seems a tensy, weensy , little bit incongruous. I was going to suggest that 'abysmally hypocritical' would be putting it mildly - but I don't want to inflame any muslim 'sensitivities'. Such an accusation would be entirely politically incorrect of course - and I'm fully cognisant of that. I saw the reactions around the world when muslims heard about cartoons being drawn of somebody they've never seen.

But do you really think it was any of his business what people did or did not do with their genitalia? Wasn't giving advice on drinking camel urine etc more beneficial?Things like that which showed his true concern for the betterment of mankind and the pursuit of knowledge.

'spirit of tolerance. ..'

let's see what we can find in the Islamic 'holy' books::

8.55, 9.5, 95.5, 9.111 Infidels are worst beasts and lowest creatures and must be killed wherever they are found.

hmmm, no - that's not it.....

Tabari VII:97 "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, 'Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"

not sure if that is that tolerant or not....

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded.

well, he didn't like them much, and they were Jews after all, so.....

Tabari VIII:141 "The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night was: 'Kill! Kill! Kill!'"
Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

nope - that's not it...

Ishaq. Page 766:

Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of the Prophet the whole night (after Khaybar raid). When, in the early dawn, the Prophet saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: "I was afraid for you with this young lady (in your bed). You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, and till recently she was an unbeliever. I was really afraid for you on her account". The Prophet prayed for Abu Ayyub al-Ansari.

Is that tolerance ? Or is it just kindness? Abu Ayyub must have needed it I guess.

Sunan Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 5251:

Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband."

Wasn't he nice? What a guy!!

(** not to forget to mention the 10 or so other freedom-sack wearing women under his influence at the time)


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