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It should be redefined
Reader comment on item: The End of Treason

Submitted by Amitabh tripathi (India), Aug 17, 2005 at 04:22

Mr Daniel Pipes has raised very relevant question.Treason is not a concept now as it was some centuries before. Fundamentalist Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon which needs policies and definitions to be revised in persepective of this new threat.
After the evolution of modern theory of nation state freedom of expression was made as major component of this institution.Other constitutional guarantees were also essential part to this institution, but new threat of terrorism has put a serious question before every democracy how to make balance between these guarantees and security of nation.
Modern society allows every group within its framework to express its opinions and defend its intrest group as well, but talking about violence in name of Islamism is something different. After the emergence of powerful Islamic groups like Al Quaeda muslims in every democracy showing less adherence to their countries rather than utopian world of Khilafat.
On the one hand these Islamists exploits the lacuna of constitutional provisions and on the other hand absence of some subsitute provides these group to operate freely.
Need of the hour is to take stock of the situation collectively by those countries who are allies in war on terror. No democracy on its own can initiate because they are under pressure from those who are supporters of Islamists in name of freedom of expression.It is high time for all democracies to get together to chalk out a comprehensive plan to evolve a policy which can become substitute of treason.
When America attacked Iraq some groups in this country not only protested this action but rallied behind Saddam Hussain as well. Same happens in democracy like India where any tough action against Islamists is termed by some groups as attack on democratic institution.These groups not only provide safe passage to Islamists but also protect and propogate their poisionous ideology.
Each and every democracy should wake up to this problem otherwise qualities of their system will become reason of their decline and fall.Treason should be defined in new persepective immediately to draw a line of difference between propogation of an ideology and treason.

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interesting omissions
[w/response] [211 words]
John PhilipsSep 1, 2006 20:56
Control the Asylum seekers and Immigrants from Islamic countries [114 words]Faqi HussainSep 2, 2005 02:11
killed for being American [49 words]maksmanAug 30, 2005 14:16
Re: Multiculturalislam [533 words]Reuben HorneAug 25, 2005 18:26
Treason [64 words]YovenAug 23, 2005 16:52
Astute observation... [77 words]J.S.Aug 22, 2005 15:51
Reply to Vijay's article [100 words]Rachelle Assouline-SeynaeveAug 22, 2005 07:18
Treason?
[w/response] [52 words]
MarigoldAug 22, 2005 01:18
Response to Jaladhi: Islamic Trojan Horse [274 words]Jan VinkAug 21, 2005 14:08
Revive treason [60 words]Martin E. WeinsteinAug 20, 2005 08:05
Response to Death of Reason [834 words]MaggieAug 19, 2005 17:32
Cooks disputing over recipes, Response to Ellen [397 words]charles fortnerAug 19, 2005 16:29
I totally agree - Response to : The End of treason (by JB) [4 words]tom nortonAug 19, 2005 15:55
response to mr pipes' response to ms. schneider [136 words]garyAug 19, 2005 14:24
A matter of will [121 words]Bill StahlbushAug 19, 2005 08:35
Can Islamists be charged with 'high treason'? [149 words]J.B.Aug 19, 2005 08:31
Jaladhi's comments [19 words]Bob EckerfieldAug 18, 2005 19:18
The Death Of Reason -- Just Feel The "Love?" [451 words]orange yonasonAug 18, 2005 15:23
Islamic Trojan Horses in Non-Muslim Countries [291 words]JaladhiAug 18, 2005 10:04
Response to Treason vs Free Speech- to Rachel Peck [323 words]Green DevilAug 18, 2005 02:45
Treason/Patriotism [86 words]Vivian E. WolfeAug 18, 2005 01:48
Re: Even the Moslems have a concept of treason [470 words]Reuben HorneAug 17, 2005 20:34
In response to Lex (on Lord Haw-Haw) [183 words]KierkegaardAug 17, 2005 20:09
The voice of the moderate Islam? [93 words]Paul ZAug 17, 2005 12:28
The End of Treason [255 words]DA. FreibergAug 17, 2005 11:41
The End of Treason [108 words]Stephen L. PassmanAug 17, 2005 11:07
Death of treason? [104 words]KenAug 17, 2005 11:06
By extension, there are no innocent civilians [186 words]garry priorAug 17, 2005 07:22
Why is the a concept of treason defunct? [32 words]Howard E. CookAug 17, 2005 04:31
It is Britain not the USA that has abandoned treason [839 words]MaggieAug 17, 2005 04:30
Treason [26 words]Patrick FoxJan 22, 2007 14:33
⇒ It should be redefined [350 words]Amitabh tripathiAug 17, 2005 04:22
The Test That Failed [412 words]David AroninAug 17, 2005 03:31
Is Treason Dead as a Concept? [39 words]FayAug 17, 2005 02:35
Please define "radical Islam"
[w/response] [159 words]
Ray SarlinAug 17, 2005 01:44
Response to Pat and Jane: A World Without Borders is Fantasy [276 words]DaisyAug 17, 2005 01:28
Treason No Longer in Vogue [175 words]Arlinda DeAngelisAug 17, 2005 00:49
Learn from India [74 words]VijaiAug 17, 2005 00:24
Loss of purpose? [43 words]Ellen SchneiderAug 16, 2005 23:57
Treason as a concept [35 words]lr63146Aug 16, 2005 22:45
Treason [72 words]Paul RinderleAug 16, 2005 22:30
Treason revitalized [45 words]Douglas BoggsAug 16, 2005 21:28
Then what do we rally around to defend who we are? [192 words]David W. LincolnAug 16, 2005 19:26
We have lost the sense of a nation [175 words]L StarkAug 16, 2005 19:25
treason
[w/response] [51 words]
ellen schneiderAug 16, 2005 19:01
Lord Haw Haw [52 words]Lex McAulayAug 16, 2005 19:01
pure bull [33 words]Mark SummersFeb 21, 2006 17:51
what is pure bull? [42 words]Lex McAulayJun 30, 2006 01:12
no reply by Mark Summers [63 words]Lex McAulayMay 26, 2007 20:31
End of treason [183 words]Charles OrenAug 16, 2005 18:29
Treason Hardly Dead, Only Moribund [223 words]Bill EiglesAug 16, 2005 18:28
Ignored traitors gain followers [173 words]JaneAug 16, 2005 18:23
re treason [113 words]Anthony DaytonAug 16, 2005 18:03
Treason in the 1940s & 1950s [39 words]Jinny Myler CollinsAug 16, 2005 17:15
If I may disagree [74 words]rightwingprofAug 16, 2005 16:47
Citizens of the World [153 words]PatAug 16, 2005 16:44
Re:Daniel"s safety. [32 words]B.BochkarevAug 16, 2005 16:03
treason doth prosper [196 words]dconnellAug 16, 2005 15:55
Treason and Free Speech Are Two Different Things [71 words]Rachel PeckAug 16, 2005 15:50
Redifining Loyalty: some questions. [403 words]DamonAug 16, 2005 15:40
Painful but true [34 words]David C. StolinskyAug 16, 2005 15:27
Perfectly Correct Daniel [255 words]JOHN GRAHAMAug 16, 2005 15:27
Treason and Sedition laws need to be re-enforced to win. [237 words]Ben ShniperAug 16, 2005 15:20
Taking a cue from our enemies, are we?? [323 words]Greg WrightJul 13, 2006 15:05
WASTE NO TIME [56 words]linuccciAug 16, 2005 15:17
Response to Pipes piece on Treason [101 words]Philip MannesAug 16, 2005 15:17
Disintegration [30 words]Darwin BarrettAug 16, 2005 14:24

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