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Submitted by Reuben Horne (Australia), Aug 25, 2005 at 18:26

Dr Pipes,
I have little more to add to my preceding comments but I must object to the idea that governments in the west now have an obligation to build concensus around a war in the manner which you suggest. The deck is stacked against them in every way. Generally speaking the media has been of one political alignment since the late 1960s. I can think of only one military campaign that has recieved the support of the media in Australia and that is our foray into East Timor - the reason for this support may have been mere self interest as in the original invasion two Australian Journalists were killed with evidence of high level Indonesian military complicity. Naturally a brotherhood of journalists unforgiving of this action went to work against this the single largest Islamic state in the world. The story was different elsewhere - Michael Moore in backing his argument that both political parties in the US were in fact the same entity cited the fact that both the Democratic and Republican parties backed the Australian campaign in East Timor. Similarly left wing know nothings went to work around the world attacking Australia and its "racist war" without any knowledge of the facts (ie Indonesia had killed over a third of that nations population in its occupation, the population was predominantly Christian, the population was of a different ethnic extraction to the Javanese Indonesian aggressors and was engaged in its own popular struggle for freedom. They even ignored the UN vote which traveled squarely in favor of independence despite violent intimidation for it to do otherwise).

With bias of this magnitude how can western governments expect any objectivity for any campaign in the present and into the future. If Islamism is a virus then western liberalism is a cancer - as long as the latter remains there will always be something that threatens the west even if Islam's radical adherents cease to be a threat. We simply lack the ideological capacity to even refute dishonest allegations made about ourselves much less justify an honest military defence of our countries.

Look once again to the brand of Multiculturalism that we practice and I refer to one of Dr Pipe's earlier articles in which he pointed out that prayers rooms had been placed in hundreds of police stations all around England for Muslim use. Multiculturalism is a unilateral phenomenon with benefits, understanding, respect, love, peace and forgiveness travelling in one direction only - away from the population that identify themselves as being western (not just the white people but any person who regards themselves as English, American or Australian first rather than second or not at all). For the others who choose to occupy our countries without truly being a part of them it's all rights and no responsabilities - and in this and the acceptance of this the true death of treason may lie.

To this end I have a proposal - inspired by the grand Islamic tradition of Dhimmification of minorities and our apparent Dhimmification of the majority within our own countries "multiculturalism" would more aptly be labelled "multiculturalislam." I believe that this homonym captures the true essence of western modernity.

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interesting omissions
[w/response] [211 words]
John PhilipsSep 1, 2006 20:56
Control the Asylum seekers and Immigrants from Islamic countries [114 words]Faqi HussainSep 2, 2005 02:11
killed for being American [49 words]maksmanAug 30, 2005 14:16
⇒ Re: Multiculturalislam [533 words]Reuben HorneAug 25, 2005 18:26
Treason [64 words]YovenAug 23, 2005 16:52
Astute observation... [77 words]J.S.Aug 22, 2005 15:51
Reply to Vijay's article [100 words]Rachelle Assouline-SeynaeveAug 22, 2005 07:18
Treason?
[w/response] [52 words]
MarigoldAug 22, 2005 01:18
Response to Jaladhi: Islamic Trojan Horse [274 words]Jan VinkAug 21, 2005 14:08
Revive treason [60 words]Martin E. WeinsteinAug 20, 2005 08:05
Response to Death of Reason [834 words]MaggieAug 19, 2005 17:32
Cooks disputing over recipes, Response to Ellen [397 words]charles fortnerAug 19, 2005 16:29
I totally agree - Response to : The End of treason (by JB) [4 words]tom nortonAug 19, 2005 15:55
response to mr pipes' response to ms. schneider [136 words]garyAug 19, 2005 14:24
A matter of will [121 words]Bill StahlbushAug 19, 2005 08:35
Can Islamists be charged with 'high treason'? [149 words]J.B.Aug 19, 2005 08:31
Jaladhi's comments [19 words]Bob EckerfieldAug 18, 2005 19:18
The Death Of Reason -- Just Feel The "Love?" [451 words]orange yonasonAug 18, 2005 15:23
Islamic Trojan Horses in Non-Muslim Countries [291 words]JaladhiAug 18, 2005 10:04
Response to Treason vs Free Speech- to Rachel Peck [323 words]Green DevilAug 18, 2005 02:45
Treason/Patriotism [86 words]Vivian E. WolfeAug 18, 2005 01:48
Re: Even the Moslems have a concept of treason [470 words]Reuben HorneAug 17, 2005 20:34
In response to Lex (on Lord Haw-Haw) [183 words]KierkegaardAug 17, 2005 20:09
The voice of the moderate Islam? [93 words]Paul ZAug 17, 2005 12:28
The End of Treason [255 words]DA. FreibergAug 17, 2005 11:41
The End of Treason [108 words]Stephen L. PassmanAug 17, 2005 11:07
Death of treason? [104 words]KenAug 17, 2005 11:06
By extension, there are no innocent civilians [186 words]garry priorAug 17, 2005 07:22
Why is the a concept of treason defunct? [32 words]Howard E. CookAug 17, 2005 04:31
It is Britain not the USA that has abandoned treason [839 words]MaggieAug 17, 2005 04:30
Treason [26 words]Patrick FoxJan 22, 2007 14:33
It should be redefined [350 words]Amitabh tripathiAug 17, 2005 04:22
The Test That Failed [412 words]David AroninAug 17, 2005 03:31
Is Treason Dead as a Concept? [39 words]FayAug 17, 2005 02:35
Please define "radical Islam"
[w/response] [159 words]
Ray SarlinAug 17, 2005 01:44
Response to Pat and Jane: A World Without Borders is Fantasy [276 words]DaisyAug 17, 2005 01:28
Treason No Longer in Vogue [175 words]Arlinda DeAngelisAug 17, 2005 00:49
Learn from India [74 words]VijaiAug 17, 2005 00:24
Loss of purpose? [43 words]Ellen SchneiderAug 16, 2005 23:57
Treason as a concept [35 words]lr63146Aug 16, 2005 22:45
Treason [72 words]Paul RinderleAug 16, 2005 22:30
Treason revitalized [45 words]Douglas BoggsAug 16, 2005 21:28
Then what do we rally around to defend who we are? [192 words]David W. LincolnAug 16, 2005 19:26
We have lost the sense of a nation [175 words]L StarkAug 16, 2005 19:25
treason
[w/response] [51 words]
ellen schneiderAug 16, 2005 19:01
Lord Haw Haw [52 words]Lex McAulayAug 16, 2005 19:01
pure bull [33 words]Mark SummersFeb 21, 2006 17:51
what is pure bull? [42 words]Lex McAulayJun 30, 2006 01:12
no reply by Mark Summers [63 words]Lex McAulayMay 26, 2007 20:31
End of treason [183 words]Charles OrenAug 16, 2005 18:29
Treason Hardly Dead, Only Moribund [223 words]Bill EiglesAug 16, 2005 18:28
Ignored traitors gain followers [173 words]JaneAug 16, 2005 18:23
re treason [113 words]Anthony DaytonAug 16, 2005 18:03
Treason in the 1940s & 1950s [39 words]Jinny Myler CollinsAug 16, 2005 17:15
If I may disagree [74 words]rightwingprofAug 16, 2005 16:47
Citizens of the World [153 words]PatAug 16, 2005 16:44
Re:Daniel"s safety. [32 words]B.BochkarevAug 16, 2005 16:03
treason doth prosper [196 words]dconnellAug 16, 2005 15:55
Treason and Free Speech Are Two Different Things [71 words]Rachel PeckAug 16, 2005 15:50
Redifining Loyalty: some questions. [403 words]DamonAug 16, 2005 15:40
Painful but true [34 words]David C. StolinskyAug 16, 2005 15:27
Perfectly Correct Daniel [255 words]JOHN GRAHAMAug 16, 2005 15:27
Treason and Sedition laws need to be re-enforced to win. [237 words]Ben ShniperAug 16, 2005 15:20
Taking a cue from our enemies, are we?? [323 words]Greg WrightJul 13, 2006 15:05
WASTE NO TIME [56 words]linuccciAug 16, 2005 15:17
Response to Pipes piece on Treason [101 words]Philip MannesAug 16, 2005 15:17
Disintegration [30 words]Darwin BarrettAug 16, 2005 14:24

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