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Islam Trumps Nationality

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Submitted by Uncle Vladdi (Canada), Dec 17, 2015 at 19:15

Hi Demsci,

You asked:

1.) "But here is what apologists and political corrects in the long run cannot deny, cannot hide; that there are millions upon millions of Muslims who REALLY follow a REALLY anti-Constitution, anti-Democratic INTERPRETATION of Islam. But that at least leaves us with the inevitable conclusion that: Islam (QHS) is vague, multi-interpretable and by far too many Muslims anti-Democratic, Hostile, violently interpreted."

The real problem for the apologists is that, according to the Qur'an and muslim jurists themselves, there is no possible way of personally "interpreting" islam. First of all, the Qur'an itself states in multiple entries that it is "Clear and easy to understand," and that it 'contains no metaphors." Secondly, according to ALL the maddhab fiqhs of sharia, the so-called metaphoric "Gates of Ijtihad" have been "closed" for 1,000 years.

There is only one Qur'an, and one islam. I know almost everything about islam (unfortunately; although it's members never cease to amaze and sicken me with creative new atrocities) simply because it has its core (the Qur'an, 2 sahih and 4 less-so ahadith, the Sirat, and the 4 Sunni and 1 Shia maddhab fiqhs of sharia) and that's it!

They cannot add to it, nor "reform" any of it; islam cannot and will not ever change, in any way, because it's the "perfect" word of allah, and the metaphoric so-called "gates of ijtihad" (interpretation) have been closed for centuries!

Surah Al-Ma'idah 5.3 informs Muslims that Allah has PERFECTED Islam. Can perfection be improved? Can perfection be reformed?? If genocidal conquest is perfect, how can it be eliminated as a sacrament of Islam???

Surah Al-An'am 6.115 informs us that "none can change his words". Surah Al-Kahf 18.27 confirms the immutability of Allah's words: the Qur'an. Surah Yunus 10.64 confirms the obvious. Surah Ar-Rum 30.30 tells us that Islam cannot be changed. Exactly what part of this is not clear to liberals? Islam is the perfected wart of Allah and cannot be reformed. It is immutable.

Surah Al-Anfal 8.39 commands Muslims to wage war against pagans until resistance ceases and only Allah is worshiped. Surah At-Taubah 9.29 commands Muslims to wage war against people with scriptural religions until they are subjugated and submit to annual demands for extortion. Both commands are without chronological or geographic limits. They are permanent in duration and global in scope.

Muslims are admonished in Surah At-Taubah -.38-39, that they will suffer a "painful torment" if they do not join the Jihad. Muslims are promised, in Surah At-Taubah 9.111 and Surah As-Saff 10-12 that he will admit them to his celestial bordello if they join the Jihad.

Jihad is the Muslim's get out of Hell free card! If he does not play that card, he meets Allah with a defect: hypocrisy. (Sunan Ibn Majah Vol. 4 #2763)

The minimum Jihad quota is once each year. If Jihad is not performed in a year when it was possible, all with knowledge of the imperative are sinners, liable to eternal damnation. (Reliance of the Traveller O9.1, Hedaya 2.140-141, The Book of Jihad pg. 18)

Muslims are commanded, in Surah Al-Anfal 8.57, to treat vanquished foes harshly so as to strike terror into those behind them. They are commanded in 8.60 to maximize the power of their army so as to terrify thereby prospective victims.

Muslims are promised, in Surah At-Taubah 9.120, that acts of terrorism will be rewarded with extra credit towards an upgrade in the celestial bordello.

Muslims are warned, in Surah Al-Baqarah 2.85, that they cannot select the parts of the Qur'an they like and reject the rest.

Islam can be easily studied and known in its entirety, by anyone. It will never change!

So, when Western people won't educate them *selves* about islam because our culture defers all thinking to those "authorities" we PAY to do our thinking and research for us, while they secretly know full-well that the salesmen in charge will always sell us all out, they ARE CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT INFANTILE DELINQUENT TRAITORS TO RATIONALITY AND CIVILIZATION!

And, 2.) "If Muslims deny that Islam is like you portray it and no problem as it is practiced by the other hundreds of Millions of Muslims (the nice and peaceful ones apologists and Ben Afflecks always come up with) then how can those Muslims then refuse to openly choose the side of the democratic nation he/ she lives in? And how else can he/ she restore trust in Muslims, part of such an organisation with it's many contradicting interpretations, practices, among whom ARE abominable anti-Democratic, violent, hostile ones?"

Both leftists and muslims are basically the same thing: gangster extortionists (criminals).

Muslims are not patriots or nationalists of any kind. They identify them selves and all others primarily by Religion.

Ask: why do "leftist" 'activist' extortionist gangsters always support "muslim" extortionist gangsters?

Proglodytes are "taught" SEDITION (abused by the false and backwards notion) that "Nations Cause Wars!"

To them, the idea of "nations" and "nationalism" only began during the Enlightenment, and was a concept - exactly like that of "greedily" owning, hording (and improving!) personal property, which was an idea deliberately invented by racist white people (including, of course, the Jews) to create exclusivist borders and restrict the movements of all those noble swarthy collectivist tribal savages on the planet.

Ignoring the fact that all the nations on earth evolved organically over time, from families to clans to tribes to nations to states and eventually empires, they "reason" in their usual, literally backwards, pre-posterous ways, that, in order to achieve world peace, they must first destroy the concept of "nations!"

That way those who destroyed their own nations won't have to feel jealous anymore about those who didn't.

And they hate Israel the most, because it is the most successful nation, the main one to disprove their fantasy claims.

Muslims, too, are never patriots; they regard all national sovereignties as temporary, man-made false idols which must all be eventually destroyed and replaced with the one-world global muslim Ummah, to be ruled by their theocratic caliphate, and their duty is to wage offensive war to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-muslims. Terrorism is an inherent, not an incidental, component of islam.

No self-determined muslim believes in any sovereign national governments nor countries at all, ever!

Islam's Sharia is either compatable with our Western, morality-based law (in which case it is superfluous) or it is not (in which case it is illegal).

There is only one universally accepted version of sharia crime ('law') and that is the original, Haneefite version as recorded in The Hedaya and used by the Ottoman Empire to rule all of islam for centuries; all moslems in all their countries are very aware of its simple might-makes-right and us-versus-them tenets and strictures.

There is really only one Qur'an, one islam, and one sharia.

And since islam is inherently SEDITION against ALL sovereign national countries (which it regards as only temporary man-made false idols, to be eventually destroyed and replaced by the global muslim Ummah, ruled by their theocratic Caliphate government - Sura 18:26) because since the Qur'an and subsequent sharia elaborations embody "god's" perfect laws which are to apply to all mankind everywhere, why would anyone ever need any merely human legislators (even 'democratically elected' ones)?!

So, since islam is a subversive anti-national and anti-legal entity, why on earth are any of its "muslim" members ever afforded any legal standing to promote their criminal treasonous sedition, before any of our courts of law?!

Allowing foreign (sharia "law") courts to exist in your country is to enable those foreign governments to govern in your country; it's obviously TREASON.

Nation-hating leftist racists love islam because it's full of poor oppressed angry violent noble... who hate the idea of nations as much as they do! They think they can control muslims by coddling them, and aim the muslims at their mutual enemies - at the hard-working civilized patriotic nationalists.

Submitting....

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