69 million page views

To dhimmi no more :Reveal your identity first in order to have crediblity and relevence

Reader comment on item: Muslims in the West: Can Conflict Be Averted?
in response to reader comment: For ramsesey and his misdirected diatribes!

Submitted by ramsesy99 (Colombia), Jan 16, 2007 at 14:54

To dhimmi no more, sorry for the delay in responding as I was in long mission (> 3 months) of duties in sub-Saharan Africa and have no time for internet exchanges.

Here is my response to you:

First : you are hiding your real identity behind a screen name that has a hint of a person who is a non-muslim but probably a believer/disbeliever in one of the monotheistic religions, i. e. Judaism and Christianity. The term Dhimmi refers to Christians and Jews only, who are citizens of a country with Muslim majority whose laws are based on Islamic Sha,riah that defines their rights and obligations toward their countries and societies.

The real meaning of the term Dhimmi is that the Muslim states have the obligation in all aspects to treat them as equals according to Muslim laws because they believe in monotheistic religion and its scriptures that Muslims believe in too, so it is a confirmation of their equality and not a discriminatory status as you might wanted to hint to in choosing it as your screen identity.

Compare this with the terms "Aliens", "African-Americans", "Hispanic-Americans, "Asian-Americans, " Arab-Americans" commonly known in US. For some historical example: Jews reached the highest status as citizens in Muslim Spain during more than 7 centuries when they were discriminated against and tormented in Christian Europe!. Jews left Spain, after the Catholics drove out the Arabs in 1492, to live in Morocco, a Muslim country, and many still live there until today. Jews prospered in many Arab and non-Arab countries with Muslim majority before the creation of the State of Israel.

As far as Christians are concerned , I give you the example of my own country, Egypt: they are less than 8% of the population, have their churches built in every part of the country, the average per capita income of an Egyptian Christian is higher than that of a Muslim Egyptian, they are richer in general and the richest and first billionaire ever in Egypt today is a Christian, George Saweris and family, the only Arab to be the secretary of UN was the Egyptian Christian-Coptic Dr. Butros Ghali who was a long-time minister in Egyptian government. the Coptics are over-presented (numerically) in Egyptian parliament and across state agencies.

Having said that, it is warranted in order to confer crediblity on your comments here, you must reveal your real identity and your motivations behind your choosing such identity and writings. I clearly said I am an Egyptian who happened to know Rashad Khalifa for a long time in several locations as a country-man and colleague, thus my comments on his behavior and conducts are not based on emotional bias or grudges and they are not MISDIRECTED DIATRIBES! as you incorrectly have said. The man is dead and may God forgive him and us, so there are no way to defend himself against my comments. But records and documented facts do exist (check records at US universities, in Egypt, in Libya if you wish) as I mentioned in my comments. It is up to you and others who have faith in Khalifa claims of prophethood to search the records and gather facts if you are really interested in truth. Blind faith and grudges aganist others have no place in modern world.

Second: Khalifa proved himself to be fraudulent as a professional and Muslim heretic, manipulator and sexual abuser (check Tucson , Arizona, media and news papers in late 1970's). No need here to repeat what I have already said and many other peoples wrote about him.

Third: you said you are interested to know the difference between the terms Rasul and Nabi as a student of Arabic language. I admit that I am not a theoligian nor a linguist, but a hard scientist who searches for the truth. The term rasul in arabic is related to a person who carries and delivers a message written or oral to another person or a group of peoples( office workers, post office clerks, who do that job are called rasul or messenger in arabic). In religion Rasul is the "divinely-chosen! " human who is orderered by his GOD to deliver the word of GOD to other humans such as the case of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Rasul is also endowed with prophetic ability, i. e. entitled to be called a NABI ( a person who have the prophetic ability). Thus in arabic the word Rasul is a synonymous of Nabi. Muhammad was a Rasul/Nabi based on his divinely-stated message in the Muslim Holy book, the Quran, and complimented with his personal highly scrutinized and authenticated Hadith (sayings) and actions (Sunna). In the Quran it is said :Muhammad is the seal (meaning the last) of all Nabis and there was no Nabi who was not a Rasul at the same time. Muslims have to believe in the message as stated in the Quran and to follow the teachings of Muhammad as stated in the Hadith and Sunna.

On the other hand, Rashad Khalifa, the man, played with words and tried to find a nitch for himself to be "self-proclaimed Rasul or messenger of GOD" and to fool naive and unlearned peoples, as he fooled some Arab countries at the beginning with much money donated to him. In addition, he distorted parts of the Quran that he translated by removing a verse he did not like and that contradicted his false mathematical code based on the number 19!.

Quran was intactly preserved since the early days of Islam up to date. Attempts by some false self-proclaimed prophets who happened to appear befor Khalifa, and they were many, were deplored and rejected by learned Muslim societies across the world. Moreover, Khalifa in his manipulative attitude , first translated Quran as in its arabic origin, then later in other editions removed the verse I refered to above, and completely discridted Muhammd Hadith and Sunna which are basic requirements in Islam. Khalifa did not deliver a "divine" message nor had a Holy book , but distorted the Quran and deviated from the basic requirements of Islam in ordere to claim himself a divine messenger or Rasul of GOD!!!. This is a straightforward fraudulent and deplorable conduct by any human and moral standards.

Furthermore , it is an insult to human intelligence to believe in such a character whom I personally knew very well. Those who wish to believe in him, as the person with ID Dhimmi here, are misled victims!!. If you wish to be a Muslim, there are the straight requirements to be so without compulsory or temptation. If you wanted to follow Khalifa or his likes, then it is your mistaken decision and I wish you good luck.

In Islam there are clear concepts stated in so many verses that mean: "...you have your religion and I have mine..."; and " there is no compulsory in religion"; and " there is no privileged status of an Arab over a Persian"; and " who kills one soul is as if he have killed all humans"; and " collaborate with good deeds and piety and not with misbehavior and evil conducts"; and " we feed you for the sake of God without compensation or rewards"...and so many great human concepts for those interested to know. All these concepts illustrate the real humanitarian tenets of Islam. It happened that I personally marrried a Colombian Catholic lady and she remains so!. And remember the infamous case of JIM JONES!.

Mabrouk A. El-Sharkawy, PhD, Univ of Arizona, Tucson, 1965.

Senior research scientist, Centro Internacional de Agricultura Tropical (CIAT), Cali, Colombia.

Some previous employment records: Associate crop physiologist, University of California, Davis; Physiologist and Professor in Egypt and Libya. International scientific consultant in agricultural development and research.

Student Senator, Univ of Arizona Senate, 1964-65; President International Students club, Univ of Arizona, 1964-65.

Listed in Who's Who in the World, Who's Who in Science and Engineering, Marquis Who's Who, USA. And many othere reference books in USA, Europe and Asia.

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

<< Previous Comment      Next Comment >>

Reader comments (109) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
muslims-in-the-west: A great article and an eye opener [10 words]SHILOH PURIFOYSep 30, 2016 12:50233088
1I am a Assimilated Muslim [426 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Imran1977Sep 8, 2015 16:48224953
Well done Mr. Pipes - but are Iranians equal to Muslim? [140 words]Pirouz KasMay 29, 2015 12:20223590
Removal of two noble verses from sura -9 (128 & 129) [35 words]NihmathullahOct 13, 2014 10:49218677
2Huge underestimate of Islamic population in Europe [49 words]HugoSep 30, 2014 05:50218326
8I do not believe they can assimilate [250 words]chris heathNov 26, 2013 17:41211829
8When inaction rules [42 words]Michael KerjmanJul 12, 2012 22:47197206
2Excellent Commentary [51 words]GWKJan 27, 2013 08:56197206
1Not each muslims are terorists [36 words]Amar AldebJan 19, 2012 13:14192694
ISIS is okay then. [26 words]Hugo LindumOct 1, 2014 18:26192694
12We will never get along [76 words]tikitakiMay 26, 2011 08:38185597
12islamists don't want peace, they want islam to be the one religion and everyone else dead ! [116 words]Phil GreendJun 29, 2009 14:54158210
6Feel tired of Islam [18 words]JeffryAug 3, 2011 23:18158210
1Don't feel tired. Get to action [116 words]PrashantOct 2, 2016 17:42158210
Quite good [37 words]MiriamMar 19, 2008 06:08122997
1incorrect... [94 words]donvanJan 14, 2010 17:51122997
35The death of Rashad Khalifa mathematicaly coded [299 words]PierreMar 31, 2007 19:0088333
1For our dear Pierre and his flawed logic and poor Muslim education [13 words]dhimmi no moreApr 11, 2007 13:5388333
1Praise God! What a sign! [52 words]SaudAug 23, 2007 01:4788333
3I just happened to be reading the comments here and... [53 words]Lover of God AloneAug 23, 2007 12:2688333
Rashad Khalifa [11 words]MazharSep 10, 2007 16:0488333
3Incredible! [24 words]illmanDec 5, 2007 19:4988333
The gematric value of R-K is not correct [19 words]BachirJul 5, 2008 18:1288333
4Yes the gematrical value of Rashad Khalifa is 1230 [374 words]PierreJul 8, 2008 16:1988333
5How would you reply to Rashad Khalifa's number 19 theory, where he removed 2 Noble Verses from the Noble Quran because their references were not multiples of the number 19? [1098 words]salinaSep 17, 2008 03:4788333
39:128-129 Truth versus falsehood [2095 words]PierreSep 20, 2008 12:1688333
The Rashad Khalifa Cult Exposed: [1017 words]salinaSep 21, 2008 14:0488333
29:128-129: the decision on 31/01/2009 on 19.org Forum [130 words]PierreSep 22, 2008 13:0388333
simple answer Pierre [1951 words]SALINASep 23, 2008 03:3088333
3Please review the article 361 on islamrevolution.org [54 words]PierreFeb 27, 2009 12:0888333
reply to Pierre [1248 words]salinaFeb 28, 2009 01:4588333
4I,m speechless,very impressive.God has provided us with great miracles through Mr,Rashad Khalifa pbuh. [51 words]ASAD ANDY MALIKMar 3, 2009 20:1788333
8Sur quoi pointe la date décès de Rashad Khalifa [368 words]AbderrahimApr 24, 2010 21:1688333
4Dear Peirre [70 words]AnoushJun 30, 2010 01:2188333
Even Birth of Dr.Rashad Khalifa is coded with 19 [57 words]ShamMar 8, 2012 15:3588333
2Go brother Pierre! [26 words]OsmanJul 12, 2012 06:0988333
All Praises are to God [114 words]Anna_Aisha (Thailand)Aug 10, 2012 19:2288333
Response to the death of rashad khalifa [44 words]NannyAug 16, 2012 15:1888333
I feel like [11 words]Fahmi N.Apr 1, 2014 20:3588333
nonsense [20 words]faresDec 18, 2014 07:2488333
The Verses with the expression WAHDAHOU [75 words]BouqdibNov 26, 2015 18:3588333
Quran [43 words]jafarlaAug 13, 2016 05:3188333
2Claim of Prophethood by Rashad Khalifa [48 words]RizalJul 1, 2006 13:4348668
For: Rizal: "there is a difference between a messenger and a prophet" [154 words]dhimmi no moreJul 1, 2006 18:2148668
Messenger ,Prophet, and Imam [171 words]HarrakJul 2, 2006 00:4048668
Claim Of Prophethood by Rashad Khalifa [397 words]RizalJul 2, 2006 00:5748668
Is the Qur'an a dictionary? I do not think so! [47 words]dhimmi no moreJul 3, 2006 06:1548668
You missed "my encyclopaedia"? Oh yeah? [567 words]dhimmi no moreJul 3, 2006 07:3248668
Claim Of Prophethood by Rashad Khalifa [117 words]RizalJul 4, 2006 00:3548668
For Rizil: Of Anbia (and not al-nabiyyin) and al-rasul [207 words]dhimmi no moreJul 4, 2006 18:0948668
1Rashad Khalifa is a fraudulent [277 words]ramsesyOct 2, 2006 21:1648668
For ramsesey and his misdirected diatribes! [137 words]dhimmi no moreOct 9, 2006 07:4148668
'Seeking Qur'anic Resonse' [65 words]Hekmatullah NafeJan 12, 2007 18:3248668
To dhimmi no more :Reveal your identity first in order to have crediblity and relevence [1335 words]ramsesy99Jan 16, 2007 14:5448668
Response to Hekmatullah Nafe [460 words]ramsesy99Jan 16, 2007 15:4748668
For ramsesy99 and more diatribes and no substance! [86 words]dhimmi no moreJan 17, 2007 08:0348668
For ramsesy9 and more diatribes and no substance part trois! [593 words]dhimmi no moreJan 18, 2007 07:4548668
...signs of ingnorance and incompetence, Dhimmi no more! [338 words]ramsesy99Jan 18, 2007 11:4148668
you are incapable of learning Dnimmi no more [277 words]ramsesy99Jan 18, 2007 16:4548668
For Ramsesy and Muslim meltdown part deux! [108 words]dhimmi no moreJan 19, 2007 07:1148668
3Dhimmi status.. [186 words]donvanJan 19, 2007 11:1848668
Keep your grudges for yourself. [5 words]ramsesy99Jan 19, 2007 19:1848668
Wrong information [254 words]ramsesy99Jan 19, 2007 21:1448668
Fior Ramses9 [200 words]dhimmi no moreJan 20, 2007 15:5348668
For ramses99 [350 words]dhimmi no moreJan 20, 2007 16:3648668
so you belong to the ...usurers of the world! [170 words]ramsesy99Jan 21, 2007 11:3448668
For Ramses99 and the history that they do not teach you in Egypt! [751 words]dhimmi no moreJan 21, 2007 16:5548668
Dhimmi no more [174 words]ramsesy99Jan 21, 2007 17:2548668
clairification... [143 words]donvanJan 21, 2007 20:5148668
1For ramsesy and Islamophobia really? [259 words]dhimmi no moreJan 22, 2007 07:2248668
Donvan ... [352 words]ramsesy99Jan 22, 2007 09:0548668
Dhimmi no more the anti-Arab of the new Orientalists! [1907 words]ramsesy99Jan 22, 2007 14:5348668
dhimmi who forgot his ...roots... [432 words]ramsesy99Jan 22, 2007 18:0548668
to muslim egyptian proud of his arabic heritage [41 words]ASJan 23, 2007 01:1548668
to Dhimmi no more on Farsi and Arabic [179 words]ASJan 23, 2007 01:2748668
1Tolerance [165 words]donvanJan 23, 2007 09:4048668
For ramses99 and his diatribes [83 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2007 17:1348668
For ramses99 and justifying the absurd! [153 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2007 17:2748668
For AS and Farsi [101 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2007 18:0148668
For Ramses99 and roots! [110 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2007 07:3448668
... dhimmi and his likes [385 words]ramses99Jan 24, 2007 11:3748668
Islam was the only religion liberated human beings from slavery [287 words]ramsesy99Jan 24, 2007 17:5448668
For Ramses99 and the history that they do not teach you in Egypt part deux! [1538 words]dhimmi no moreJan 26, 2007 19:4948668
For Ramses99 Islam tawheed! [126 words]dhimmi no moreJan 27, 2007 07:4148668
for ramses and Iran and islam [236 words]dhimmi no moreJan 27, 2007 07:5748668
For Ramses99 Arabian imperialism and the history that they do not teach you in Egypt part trios! [50 words]dhimmi no moreJan 27, 2007 08:0248668
to the egyptian mathematician! lol [55 words]ASJan 27, 2007 08:1748668
for ramses Islam and slavery! [103 words]dhimmi no moreJan 27, 2007 16:4648668
1For Ramses and joining a cult! And islamophobia? really? [277 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 7, 2007 07:2748668
response to Dr. Mabrouk A. El-Sharkawy, PhD [9 words]sandraAug 11, 2009 19:3748668
Islamophobia is rampant in the Western countries [5 words]M. A. ElsharkawyJan 3, 2010 12:4248668
A great need to respond... [154 words]donvanJan 13, 2010 11:3248668
1Speak the truth pierre [11 words]Apple PieJun 30, 2010 01:0048668
1Hey dhimmi no more.. Guess what [277 words]Apple PieJun 30, 2010 01:1248668
Christians in Egyot? [118 words]grangerFeb 27, 2012 11:2948668
PRODUCE YOUR PROOF BEFORE ALLEGING [64 words]SunilOct 23, 2012 10:0048668
How True & False is the History [174 words]Herry WiyanaAug 21, 2013 07:5548668
Islam need moderation and change in interpretation of Quran [867 words]R K SharmaFeb 18, 2015 00:0448668
Conspiracy Against the Truth [52 words]Shah DanMar 6, 2017 23:3648668
3ISLAM BOOSTERS [292 words]DONVANMay 2, 2006 15:1244752
what REALLY needs to change [373 words]JimMay 18, 2006 02:3244752
What Really Needs To Change [420 words]RizalJul 2, 2006 01:3944752
1Quranic Grammar [127 words]Truth BringerJul 15, 2007 17:2544752
1When will they ever learn? [200 words]Howard E. CookJan 9, 2010 15:3344752
so true [95 words]donvanJan 12, 2010 15:1744752
Yes, Conflict Can Be Averted [281 words]Allison KhanApr 17, 2006 00:2643356
Good summary [45 words]S CarrollJun 11, 2003 16:589507
wake up [3 words]Alexander (not muslim) StrokoschMay 17, 2003 16:329113
1there is truly deceit in Islam against all who are not Islamic [47 words]dawudJun 4, 2009 14:279113

Comment on this item

Mark my comment as a response to To dhimmi no more :Reveal your identity first in order to have crediblity and relevence by ramsesy99

Email me if someone replies to my comment

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

ADVERTISEMENTS

eXTReMe Tracker

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2020 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)