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To Nuray, Did Islam bring a great civilzation?

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Submitted by John M. (United States), Jan 24, 2006 at 12:22

Nuray: You wrote" Our messengers and his followers opened the gate through a marvelous civilization, Islam".
If it is such a great civilization then why do muslims bend over backwards to escape islamic lands and migrate to kafirlands in droves. Nuray why did you move here if you love islam and the great islamic civilization? Why dont you move back and leave us kafirs alone.

Claiming that Islam brought a great civilization is mockery of intelligence

Absurdity of this claim is to look at the state of the Muslims all over the world. Although Islamic countries are poor and will remain poor because the "Islamic economy" (that is oxymoronic) is based on the lunacy of an ignoramus and if it wasn't for the oil, they would be the poorest people of the world.
Even where they make money by selling oil the social injustice in Islamic countries is the first thing that comes to sight. Now one would think that oil should belong to all the people in the country. No one has done anything to make it. It is just there and they just dig it out.

Nonetheless there is no welfare or social safety net for the poor, the handicapped, the orphan or the elderly in any Islamic country. If you are stricken by a disaster, such as an accident and you can't work, the only way for you to survive is to become a beggar. If your husband divorces you or dies and you are not young and pretty enough to find another husband, pan handling or suicide are your only options.
. If you are poor, sometimes the mosque may give you some handout, but not without a catch. The catch is that you join the Jihad, become an Islamic revolutionary, help them in their political agenda or become a suicide bomber so your family can be supported for a while. That support is not forever.

. In the secular societies we have real safety nets and social justice. It provides you enough to live with dignity. If you are young you will be trained to enter workforce and if you are disabled or old, you will be sustained by the welfare. You do not have to become a beggar. Muslims who immigrate to the Western kafirdoms are familiar with this system more than anyone else. They take full advantage of it and even abuse it. Nothing like that exists in any Islamic country. The quranic injunction to give to the poor is nonsense. What poor people need is not the wanton and humiliating handout of the rich but a real welfare system. That is only possible where the economy is robust and can never happen in any Islamic country.
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