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Submitted by David Wood (United Kingdom), Oct 9, 2002 at 05:03

Reading this particular interview and others on the site, and the comments, I have come to the conclusion that everybody else who has commented is reading a different interview than me, or is living in a different world.

Mr Pipes appeared to be launching an unsupported attack upon a good academic, who defended himself by pointing out Mr Pipes' lack of credentials and reliance on slander and innuendo. For the writers of comments to see this as a victory for free speech or justice, or indeed Mr Pipe, is quite strange.

I am not from the United States, however I used to live there. I have mixed ancestry: Irish-American, Polish Jewish, Scottish and English, and have lived in many different parts of the world, so I have some experience of (and feeling for) all sides of the current debate.

September 11th was a terrible and disgusting act of terrorism, there is no doubt about it, but to start to shut down debate, to try to argue that there is an 'American' way of thinking that is correct and cannot be challenged, will not address the root-causes of terrorist violence from outside or from inside the USA (let's not forget the last major terrorist attack was carried out by a white American).

Many people in the rest of the world are very disturbed by the use of September 11th as an excuse by the USA (supported I am ashamed to say by Britain) to carry out all sorts of extremist actions in order to maintain oil supplies, or to keep regimes favourable to the US in power (that's not a 'lefty' view - look at Mr Pipes' own Middle -East site for confirmation). We should not forget who was responsible for the creation and arming of Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. Going back in history, Britain and France's role in the division of Middel East should not be ignored either.

I liked the people I met in the USA. But, the state of basic education about the rest of the world in America is very poor, and very narrowly nationalistic. I used to think that it was bad in Britain, but I found that in the USA, there was a total lack of basic geographical and historical knowledge when it came to the world as a whole. I remember comments during the wars in the former Yugoslavia to the effect of 'let's bomb the Baltic' (rather than the Balkans...)...

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Are you all missing the point? [411 words]David WoodOct 9, 2002 05:032973
KUDOS TO DANIEL PIPES [162 words]BruceOct 8, 2002 20:582968
A failed academic? I don't think so. [185 words]Maryallene OtisOct 8, 2002 09:482961
The pot calling the kettle black [178 words]SusanOct 7, 2002 16:052953
Bravo, Dr. Daniel Pipes [193 words]Arlene SwartzmanOct 6, 2002 02:492942
McCarthyism? I think not. [127 words]Maurice TawilOct 6, 2002 02:342941
Donahue = Liberal Bias [89 words]M. LouchheimOct 5, 2002 23:052938
Thank You, Mr. Pipes!! [92 words]Carrie OkayOct 5, 2002 04:302927
Disappointed [74 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Jed GelberOct 5, 2002 01:322926
Great job; Dabashi is a worrisome and dangerous 'joke' [87 words]Stanley MarguliesOct 4, 2002 00:222904
Campus Watch: Bringing Balance to a Lopsided Discussion [149 words]Eva GoldmanOct 3, 2002 17:442896
Keep it up, Dr. Pipes [208 words]Ted RoseOct 3, 2002 06:022875
nice [4 words]mahi awMay 14, 2012 09:592875
Cry 'Wolf!!!' one more time!!!! [75 words]Roger EllisOct 3, 2002 01:542871
Who's the real McCarthyite? [139 words]Craig RanapiaOct 2, 2002 18:162864
Phil Donahue [46 words]John R. CohnOct 2, 2002 17:512863
You are amazing. [45 words]Robert G. MogullOct 2, 2002 02:492831
Donahue is awful [114 words]Phil GetzOct 2, 2002 00:262826
The Phil Donahue debate [200 words]Marilyn A. FrithOct 1, 2002 19:192818
Will the real "failed academic," please stand up. [145 words]EdOct 1, 2002 17:242810
Thank you for exposing the pervasiveness of this problem [73 words]Juli AnnOct 1, 2002 16:422806
The War with Iraq is heating up...here in Vancouver ! [318 words]Joyena AbrahamOct 1, 2002 16:242803
The Universtiy Game [287 words]SheerahkahnOct 1, 2002 15:382799
Typical behavior [91 words]Tim WilsonOct 1, 2002 15:192797
You stood firm! [41 words]rachelOct 1, 2002 14:242792
Easily exposed [69 words]Dan EisenbergOct 1, 2002 12:442788
It's the Socialists! [264 words]DanielOct 1, 2002 12:392787
Great work, but the wrong arena [169 words]Russ ParkerOct 1, 2002 11:162782
Good job, DOCTOR Pipes! [137 words]John WilkinsonOct 1, 2002 10:462781
Donahue and perpetuation of lies [119 words]R. GarfieldOct 1, 2002 10:442780
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Dabashi "standards" [61 words]AdamOct 1, 2002 08:542773
What a tangled web ... [345 words]Ellen Ben-EliahuOct 1, 2002 05:542769
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Why Donahue? [76 words]JeanSep 30, 2002 23:042757
Professor Dabashi's Logic [97 words]Lee D. CarySep 30, 2002 21:522756
DonaWhoo [9 words]Harold DodsonSep 30, 2002 21:392755
Donahue, Dabashi & Pipes [174 words]William PapkeSep 30, 2002 20:472754
THE TRUTH IS WONDERFUL [89 words]Fred EdisonSep 30, 2002 20:472753
Keep on standing up to criticism! [36 words]Rachelle Mand, PhdSep 30, 2002 20:412751
#264: Pipes v. Dabashi on MBNBC's "Donahue" [103 words]Michael RifkinSep 30, 2002 20:412750
You are doing the right thing! [104 words]Sara MillerSep 30, 2002 20:412749
Direct Hit [81 words]Howard HymanSep 30, 2002 20:092748
Mr. Cool! [12 words]Lynda KramerSep 30, 2002 19:562747
Personal Attacks On You [70 words]Jason Epstein, Director of Legislative Affairs, B'nai B'rith IntlSep 30, 2002 19:262746

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